no speed forum also... cocaine isnt man made, its extracted from coca leaves... its not a pharamcuetical or a designer drug... plus if speed falls under the man made drugs forum then mdma should also be there.... plus it doesnt make sense for cocaine to belong to the other drugs forum... for gods sake theirs a dmt and salvia forum and no cocaine forum...
cocaine isn't psychedelic, although it definitely could be considered hippie-ish. you should ask for a stimulants forum or something.
youre right, but opiates are not psychedillics, pharamcueticals arent psychedillcs, alcohol aint a psychedellic...
Psychedelic translated from the greek means "mind manifesting". Most drugs effect the mind to some extent, so loosely they might be psychedelic, but just not in the way that most people think psychedelic means. I guess that there isn't enough posts about cocaine to have its own forum?
i think there is no cocain forum cause cocain users are either 1: dead from overdose 2: to scatty to organize a forum 3: to psychopathic to get some one to help them make a forum 4: its a crap drug & not realy worth the effort 5: & in anser to {its not man made}, from the cocain leaf you get raw tropococain wich is active making tropococain into cocain is turning it into crystal, so ide say cocain is man made becuase to make it means you nead to do a sythetic reaction to it to get cocain. 6: ide say things like dmt, ayhuasca, salivia, lsd, mushrooms have there own forums cause they are worth talking about & none of them are addictive meaning you dont end up with a forum focused on come downs & withdrawing from crap like cocain !.
although virtually nobody on the street gets pharmaceutical grade cocaine, it does exist, and IS used in medicine today, albeit infrequently. but it is only a schedule II drug and there are legitimate medical uses for it. it certainly could go in the "pharmaceuticals" section just as DXM, anti-anxiety medications, viagra, or many other drugs. it is also very suitable for the "other drugs" section, since so few people have significant experience with pharmaceutical cocaine. speed is any form of amphetamine without significant psychedelic or empathogenic qualities to it (discluding things like MDMA, for example) such as but not limited to methamphetamine (more and more frequently what many people are talking about when they say "speed" these days) dextroamphetamine, and levoamphetamine. these drugs, even methamphetamine, are also pharmaceutical drugs, despite that most of the methamphetamine on the black market is produced clandestinely. therefore these drugs also fit into the "pharmaceuticals" or "other drugs" categories. it would be impractical to give EVERY specific drug its own forum, but i do believe the addition of a generalized "stimulants" forum could be beneficial, and have often wondered the same question. though these substances, from cocaine to coffee to adderall to mormon tea, could all fit into existing categories such as "pharmaceuticals" "other drugs" or "potent potables" but i think they're more adequately classified by their primary effects on the human nervous system.
and cocaine is not simply extracted from the leaves of the coca plant, its turned into the hydochloride salt as well during the process of isolating it. there is some chemical change in the cocaine. similar with freebase - its still cocaine, only its NOT a salt. otherwise its chemically identical. its nitpicking, but for what its worth being extracted from natural plant matter does not prevent something from being a pharmaceutical anyway. codeine and morphine are found in poppies, and are among the earliest isolated natural chemicals used for medicine. definitely pharmaceuticals. the same can be said for atropine, acetyldigoxin, camphor, papavarine, ephedrine, pseudoephedrine, caffeine, quinine, among many, many others.
Ummm correct me if I'm wrong here... but I'm remember reading once that cocaine was only made schedule two because of some lawsuit back in the day where a doctor wanted to treat his cocaine addicted patient with cocaine. I don't think the doctor ever actually ended up using it... and it really hasn't ever been used since then. But I definitely could be wrong.
ive wanted a stimulant forum for years. theres so much stigma around stimulants. maybe a forum for them would make it more clear as to information about it. it would HAVE to have a sub forum involving coke prices because that seems to be one of the most popular form of thread started about coke.
Opiates are addictive and so is MDMA to an extent... However they have their own forum... Plus why does a plant like salvia which gives you a high for 1 minute has its own forum instead of falling under the psychedillic plants forum?
i believe you are, though i never heard that story and something like this could have been the case at one time, but i definitely am sure that cocaine is used, although rarely, in medicine today. primarily as a local anaesthetic, and most often for optical surgery.
certainly not me, and in fact i'm among those who look down on stimulants in general anyways, but there are plenty of people who do like them...and plenty of people who really like them...and liking and using them sometimes certainly doesnt require being an addict, although all to often it can lead to it. i dont like coke (though i enjoy coca tea or tincture on occasion) and really dont enjoy stimulants that much in general, and most i severely dislike using. but still people should have a place to discuss them and learn a thing or two.
cokes boring...and from my exeperience turns u into an arrogant arse where you cant even talk to people coz ur thinking bout your next line...i dont think that sorta drug even DESERVES a forum
i love coke. i know it has a shitload of negative connotations attached, but I love the way it makes me feel. Jimaug, you say rip your bong or munch some shrooms and be happy, but when I smoke pot, I get really depressed, not happy. But when I'm on blow, I feel happy. Now I'm not an addict, I'm not constantly thinking about it, or spending all my money on it. I don't consider myself arrogant simply because I do coke, to each their own. I might be an odd variable among coke users, but I feel I use it responsibly.
but that's the thing. cocaine is an awful anaesthetic compared to non-addictive and perfectly safe drugs like novacaine. There is no reason why you'd need cocaine for anaesthesia. So whatever... I googled it.