Why is it that...(?)

Discussion in 'Women's Forum' started by Carlfloydfan, Apr 7, 2005.

  1. Carlfloydfan

    Carlfloydfan Travel lover

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    Birth Control was invented in the mid 1960's and was a big part of the sexual revolution in America. Women and men alike adopted the free love attitude. Yet in the Eastern part of the world, it took years for birth control to be legalized. In some extreme cases, such as Japan, birth control was only legalized two years ago! Yet when you take a look at viagra, which was invented about ten years ago, it took Japan only 6 months to legalize viagra after it came out in the USA. I suppose their train of though was that men would find it somehow. Overall, this appears to be a big double standard though!

    Even more unfair is the fact that gentile mutilation is still practiced in many areas of Africa. I understand that it is a practice routed in tradition but its relevance today is low, if non existent. Sex is objectified for these women and it takes away all the pleasure as women are forced to simply lay there and suffer from pain (instead of a beautiful experience). I understand that lack of education is a key role in these practices. Many women practice this for family pride and to get a husband. Due to ignorance, many men believe that an un-circumcised vagina is dirty and will harm them. More so, that the clitoris will harm a baby if the two are to come into contact. So many misconceptions still exist for African men and women. Many men may favor this operation because they believe it will make a woman more dependent and weak, so they will stay at home. They believe that un-circumcised women will have more sex and are more prone to permiscous behavior. Again, there are just to many misconceptions!

    On the other hand, I can understand how African males may find American males practices weird. Our obsession with breasts is seen as odd. For an African male, female breasts are seen as a more functional body part, that gives milk to babies. They would much prefer a nice round women and concentrate oh the bottoms. So the gap between cultures is a large problem to overcome. But it is diffidently possible to learn from each other and learn to stop objectified women in every culture.


    These are just things I have been wondering. Your thoughts?
     
  2. lynsey

    lynsey Banned

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    because birth control gives women personal power over therye sexuality and food and drugs admins or old stuffy men who cant get it up. look at all the goverment funds that go into prostate cancer research compared to breast cancer.
     
  3. happykoala

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    I don't understand why breasts are sexy...are udders sexy?
     
  4. Carlfloydfan

    Carlfloydfan Travel lover

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    I just stated that many American men find them sexy and that a lot of African men find our fascination with breasts quite weird. I see them as functional too, but at the same time they are...fun to kiss. So I'm somewhere in the middle personally, since I don't understand the huge obsession over breasts and don't drool over them like other males. I also don't feel it is nessecary for girls to get breast augmentations either. You should be thankful and happy with the unique body god gave you and not alter anything about you with artificial BS like breast enlargement or plastic surgery.
     
  5. lynsey

    lynsey Banned

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    im getting my boobs done this year ive decided to get a lift and a slight reduction and get lipo in my lower stomach-ive gone for the consultations and just couldnt do it but im ready now and have a ppo so it will cover some of it. i ws very heavy for like 3 months and lost in very fast so no matter how much i run or how little i eat i wont look toned which sucks and im sick of having to get my shirts taken in at the waist. women are breast obsessed too i guess
     
  6. Carlfloydfan

    Carlfloydfan Travel lover

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    oh for sure. Its just a dangerous procedure compared to what you gain, thats why I think its not neccessary. I have known ppl who have been hurt going through breast surgery and lypo, thats why. But good luck to you!
     
  7. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    It isn't easy to know what to do in these situations. part of me thinks that we should leave other cultures alone, enjoy and protect our diversity. But women have generally been the second-class citizens of this world, no matter the culture, and being a woman myself I see that as a major problem.
     
  8. feministhippy

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    I think that, as a culture, we need to solve our own problems with such issues as sexism and racism before we can really critisize other culture's problems in those areas.

    The Roma believe that menstration makes a woman's lower half of the body unclean. That is why the stereotypical image of a "gypsy" woman is of a woman with a long skirt but a short top- because the lower half is supposedly impure, but the upper half is not.

    When I first read about it, I was naturally offended. Menstration is a natural part of being a woman. How can one say that it's impure? But in a sense, is this not what our society teaches us? Maybe not impure, but our society certainly perceives it as disgusting. We don't bring it out in the open the way they do, but instead dodge around it saying "There's nothing wrong with it, just never, ever talk about it." But if I were ever to mention that I was having my period, people would fucking head for the hills. People think that it's so disgusting that when I'm in a grocery store and I pick up a package of tampons and don't go out of my way to hide it, people give me dirty looks and whisper so quiety the whole store can hear it how immodest it is to do that. My dad freaks out if I leave tampons laying around in my room, unused and in their packages. I used to get yelled at so much because I don't cross my legs. I can't cross my legs. I literally have physical problems doing it. Besides, it's supposed to be really bad for your hips.

    I recognize the fact that in the last 80 years, a lot of amazing things have happened for woman that haven't before because both women and men worked their asses off for woman to gain these rights. I'm just saying that we do still have our own problems in our own society, and we need to recognize that and try to solve those problems before we can try to change the rest of the world.
     
  9. Carlfloydfan

    Carlfloydfan Travel lover

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    I agree with a lot of the points you mentioned. I suppose I made a few generalizations about other cultures, but I am happy to see the strides females have made. What exactly offended you? I stated a few facts, but also included my opinion which showed some of my disgust with how women were treated, epecially with gentile mustilation. Just stating there are a lot of misconceptions.
     
  10. feministhippy

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    No, I was offended when I first read about the custom. I was not offended at all by you. I think you brought forth some good points.
     
  11. Carlfloydfan

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    haha, cool, just making sure cause its a sensitive subject for some people. I have gotten a few not so kind reponses from people I have talked to.
     
  12. cutelildeadbear

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    Because its a man's world. I'm sorry. I wish it were not true. But it is, for now.
     
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