Why in "Mysterious Ways"?

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by Shane99X, Sep 24, 2004.

  1. Shane99X

    Shane99X Senior Member

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    All the christians I know like to talk about how sin is the result of disobedience to God.

    Wouldn't it be a little simpler for him and us if he just came down and make everybody aware of the choice between hevean and hell?

    It's kind of unfair to allow such overwhelming doubt to cause people to go to hell...
     
  2. #include

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    If people absolutely knew 100%, then there wouldn't be faith, now would there?

    You come to the Father by faith. Faith is believing in something without proof.

    Faith shows true dedication and loyalty.
     
  3. Soulless||Chaos

    Soulless||Chaos SelfInducedExistence

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    and also ignorance if you're wrong.
     
  4. northernlehigh97

    northernlehigh97 Senior Member

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    As a human you know what is right and wrong. He doen't need to show us. And yes, faith.
     
  5. Shane99X

    Shane99X Senior Member

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    But with Christianity it's not just about being moral is it?

    How do you expect tribesmen in South America to know the plan of salvation?

    When there are thousands of religions that look more or less alike, how do I know Christianity is the true path?

    Why can't God make it more clear?
     
  6. roly

    roly Senior Member

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    why dont u ask him ...not us?
    roly.xxx
     
  7. Shane99X

    Shane99X Senior Member

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    He has a bad habit of never answering.
     
  8. roly

    roly Senior Member

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    did u spend time listening...coz that usually helps... prayer dont work if ur not really open to it
     
  9. ::TheConcreteGirl::

    ::TheConcreteGirl:: Senior Member

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    I believe there is some point in everyones life where they have a chance to accept christ or not....now about sin...
    Sin is there..in everyones lives.sin IS disobedience from Gods word and commands, unfortuneatly, were born into it. ..and I believe it is simple..if your thinking its wrong, and you feel guilty then what other sign do you need to know that what your doing isnt right? the only time when guilt shouldnt be there is if you feel guilty for something after youve asked for repentance from the sin..In that case, guilt is a tool of stan to keep you from moving on in a walk with God. once youve asked for repentance, you got it.
     
  10. Shane99X

    Shane99X Senior Member

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    Nice post, but it doesn't address the question at all.

    Reread the thread topic please.
     
  11. The World of Dan

    The World of Dan FSMFTW

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    Well, you see it's hard for him - because he does not exist.... (This might be an unpopular view within this forum, but it is my opinion and i'm as entitled to it as anyone else).

    There is no heaven or hell. I don't know if I believe in a soul or not (maybe, not 100% sure), but if there is, when we die it does not 'go' anywhere, it just gets sucked back into the energy that we are all made of, and then gets made into something else.

    There is no such thing as sin. Good and evil are just a person perception of what's going on in the world, not external forces (i.e. no god, no devil). In fact one persons good could be viewed as another persons evil...

    Sorry, no such thing as god... (IMO).
     
  12. Shane99X

    Shane99X Senior Member

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    You bonehead, I know there is no god!

    Read the topic post before you answer.
     
  13. The World of Dan

    The World of Dan FSMFTW

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    Wow, so agressive - I know you don't believe in god - i was backing you up..... I'm sorry that my post agreeing with you has upset you in some way.. (wow, what a jerk, i'm sorry I even posted).
     
  14. Shane99X

    Shane99X Senior Member

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    Sorry I offended, I was arguing with a Pastor today to no avail, i'm a little frustrated.

    sorry.
     
  15. The World of Dan

    The World of Dan FSMFTW

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    It's OK. we all make mistakes.
     
  16. Bug_Man

    Bug_Man Banned

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    Well, not all of us.
     
  17. Genesis

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    the whole theory of heaven and hell can be broken down simply.


    in short its a proverbial prison of sorts. now ask yourself why you go to prison? because you have comitted an act of wrong doing.




    people know if they are comitting wrongs in the eyes of god. he sent his son..jesus christ to tell us the true path. so it's not as if christians are ignorant of their way.in his own words he spoke truth to us and how to avoid hell and achieve the kingdom of god.


    be a good person. treat people as you would like to be treated. love thy neighbour. if you are a good person you will go to heaven. if you are not a good person you will be punished for your sins.
     

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