Why I believe in God...

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by JesusDiedForU, Sep 14, 2004.

  1. JesusDiedForU

    JesusDiedForU Banned

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    THE BIGGEST SKEPTIC IN THE WORLD:
    IT COULD HAVE BEEN ME

    (courtesy of http://bibledesk.com/)

    To the best of my memory, before I came to the saving grace of Jesus Christ, I did not believe the Bible was true. I doubted whether there was a God and believed that we were born, lived so many years, and then died. I owned a successful business and thought that I had succeeded by my own wits.
    One evening, my wife and I heard some documentation that these were the last days before Jesus Christ would actually return. Not really wanting to hear it, I almost walked out. Something kept me there, and I listened. I was not convinced. I still had doubts whether or not there was a God. I doubted whether there really was a Satan, heaven, hell, or a judgment. Just to be sure, however, I decided to do a little research. My idea was to find out if the Bible was really true. Indeed, if I could find one contradiction, one error, or anything in the Bible that was not true, then that would be all that was needed to disregard it. (I wasn't necessarily interested in whether we were in the latter days or not, but just trying to find out if the Bible was really true.) I believed this would take a very short time.
    As I have learned, the Bible has about 10,000 prophecies (verses). Nearly one-third of the Bible is directly or indirectly related to prophecy. This endeavour led me into far more research than I could have suspected. One thing needed, was to determine when the Bible was actually written. Because of this, a study of biblical history and archaeology was necessary. I found the Old Testament was indeed written before the coming of Jesus, as the Dead Sea Scrolls (containing parts of the book of Isaiah) were proven to have been written before Jesus came. The book of Isaiah includes forecasts of Jesus. Thousands of clay tablets have also been found, which confirm many accounts in the Bible.
    I began studying the prophecies in the Bible. My wife would go to the library for me to obtain documentation from reference books to see if the prophecies really did take place. One day went by, then two days, and then a week. Every prophecy that we were able to get information on proved to be accurate. Two weeks went by. Then four weeks passed. My job became of secondary importance. Every prophecy that we were able to verify checked as being true. I was astonished, but far from convinced. I still had doubts as to whether there was a God, a heaven, or a hell yet I had to be sure. Later, there were people who would show me what appeared to be contradictions in the Bible, yet these were not contradictions at all, but only a lack of research on the part of those that said these things. I was searching to find if the Bible was true. My wife spent a lot of time at the library making copies of various reference materials, which I would check out against the Scriptures. Stubborn, that's me. Even after four weeks of intensive study, proving prophecy after prophecy was true, I was still skeptical and refused to believe. I began taking more time off from my business and investing it in study. One month turned into two, and two months turned into four. The more I researched, the more determined I became. It wasn't possible. The Bible could not be perfect. Thousands of prophecies, and every one perfect? No, impossible! Sixty-six books written by many people over hundreds of years and not one error? If I would admit that, I would have to admit there was a God, and I was not prepared to do it, even after months of research.
    My studies also included various translations of the Bible, checking prophecies against reference books, archaeological discoveries, just to mention some. It became an obsession with me. My foremost desire was to know the truth. Four months turned into many months. I've never known anyone, before or since, that was willing to take this amount of time just to find out if the Bible was true. Finally, I had to admit I was wrong.
    If you would walk across the street 10,000 times and never get hit, then you would walk across the street the next time by faith. So it was with me. Finally, after spending almost countless hours of research, I had to admit the Bible is true and is indeed the perfect Word of God. Anyone willing to take the time I did and do the same research, could only come to the same conclusion, if they are honest with themselves. I may have been the biggest skeptic in the world, but now I know. It did not come easy, but by God's mercy and grace, it did come.
     
  2. Willy_Wonka_27

    Willy_Wonka_27 Surrender to the Flow

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    im to lazy to read that but, to be nice, ill say it made sence to me and that you are a very smart person

    ive said it before and ill say it agian:
    Hey, I believe in god, man. I've seen him, I've felt his power! He plays drums for Led Zeppelin and his name is John Bonham, baby!
     
  3. 4_Leaf_Clover

    4_Leaf_Clover I Love

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    If I drank 10,000 beers, could I then get drunk by faith alone?
    This logic is absolutely laughable.
    Personally, I don't doubt Christ's message. He was a good guy. But unfortunately, many people have resorted to brainwashing in his name.
     
  4. Samhain

    Samhain Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I thought you'd been queit that must have taken you ages to write.....

    S
     
  5. Samhain

    Samhain Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Actually its a pretty good discussion if we can keep it from getting insulting.
    people find there own truths in the bible if everything in it was true then there would only be on type of christianity, but how many different 'strands' of christianity are there, and further more how many are there that believe that there way is the only truth??

    S
     
  6. Becknudefck

    Becknudefck Senior Member

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    to each his own
     
  7. Lucifer Sam

    Lucifer Sam Vegetable Man

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    I'm thinking about dressing up as Jesus for Halloween. Yeah, you heard me. :H
     
  8. seamonster66

    seamonster66 discount dracula

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    but people would assume you were either going as a hippie or a homeless person!


    Unless you want to drag a huge cross around.
     
  9. novarys

    novarys Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    hahaha that would be a big commitment and a true passion for halloween...sam you up for that?:H
     
  10. Lucifer Sam

    Lucifer Sam Vegetable Man

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    Definitely... and a halo. Or maybe the thorny crown thing, complete with fake blood. Haha, I'm an evil bastard. [​IMG]
     
  11. Samhain

    Samhain Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    hang on ive studied research, and you can't say the bible is the only truth, and the rest are lies until youve studied other holy texts and reached the conclusion they are not accurate, other wise your research is biased.
    I applaud your hard work in trying to save our souls its just ashame your misguided

    S
     
  12. 4_Leaf_Clover

    4_Leaf_Clover I Love

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    summed up in 4 words. absolute truth ;)

    Why I believe in god:

    Reality is like the reflection of a landscape in a perfectly still lake. It sure looks real, but it is so easily changed. In this metaphor, god is the lake/landscape/reflection/change/changer. Human beings are god contemplating god.
     
  13. JesusDiedForU

    JesusDiedForU Banned

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    -Alot of people have opinions. And alot of people dont take the Bible literal and once a person starts going down that road there ends up with many relegions. Those who stick closest tot he writing know they may differ on various points but the happpy medium is that we are saved by Jesus Christ despite our differences that often are not of substance.
     
  14. Samhain

    Samhain Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    if you don't study other religious texts then your arguement is flawed, as you have to compare it to something, basic research teaches us that

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  15. Agent MoNkEy 0017

    Agent MoNkEy 0017 Member

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    why i beleive in God:

    because i can. because theres no other explanation.

    a lot of history is based upon that written in the bible. why is there an AD and BC? why is there an earth to begin with? why are we who we are today?

    i dont trust science. i had to turn somewhere.

    *christian to the bone*
     
  16. Strawberry_Fields_Fo

    Strawberry_Fields_Fo RN

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    I believe in god, if you want to call it that. I don't believe in the Christian god for many reasons, but truly, to each his own. If you chose to spend your energy trying to convert those who differ in beliefs, that's your choice. But in my opinion, you are wasting your time.
     
  17. Samhain

    Samhain Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    JesusDFU its against the rules to post in the same thread under a different name, your not fooling anyone

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  18. Agent MoNkEy 0017

    Agent MoNkEy 0017 Member

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    dude this isnt him. wtf? ive read some of his posts on the politics page and i disagree with half the crap hes saying on other posts...

    im not him, screw off
     
  19. JesusDiedForU

    JesusDiedForU Banned

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    The Christianity says that inorder to achieve eternal life a person must simply accept Jesus Christ as their personal savior-Grace. Where as all other relgions eternal life is earned by works.

    The Bible is the only religious text that has provable prophecies. Where as no other religious text can compare to the Bible's prophecy accuracy. Through this Christianity rise above all other religions.
     
  20. interval_illusion

    interval_illusion Deceased

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    quotes in this and my comments in this...

    im gonna play devils adovate and/or the asshole/bitch here....

    why i beleive in God:

    because i can. because theres no other explanation. so because i can go kill people there is no other explanation? or because i can create my own religion tomorrow, there is no other explanation?


    a lot of history is based upon that written in the bible. why is there an AD and BC? why is there an earth to begin with? why are we who we are today?why is there ad and bc?- you gotta be kidding me! why is there an earth to begin with.... well, you think christianity is the only answer to that question? let's look at science which gives a LOGICAL, TESTED answer for that.... or even use your spiritual self combined with that ( i know i do).... and why are we who we are today?- see previous answer

    i dont trust science. i had to turn somewhere. you dont trust science so you have to turn some where. funny... i grew up in a christian home and i dont trust christiany or religion in a whole, so i did the opposite, i turned to science. it's much more logical. i still have spirituality but it's not based in a religion that has no prove and a "God" that is gonna send me to hell because i dont believe in what i cant see
     

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