Why Government Researchers Think We May Be Living In A 2D Hologram

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  1. AceK

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    "Operating with cutting-edge technology out of a trailer in rural Illinois,"



    A trailer in rural Illinois is cutting edge?
     
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  4. AceK

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    lol, i'm assuming the equipment inside the trailer is what's cutting edge. no one would ever expect that!
     
  5. AmericanTerrorist

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    I knew from the title this thread would be about living in the matrix type thing.

    Let me tell you... I bookmarked that article (skimmed it also) to read more later. But I'm not trying to freak myself out right now. A long time ago I got myself really smoked and ended up reading some similar stuff to that- basically scientists were giving validity to the real possibility of living in a 2 D Matrix. I read about it...and read about it...and I was so stoned. Haha, I really started thinking I was in a matrix and it still freaks me out.

    Many, many, MANY years ago (shortly after the matrix came out) I took a bunch of acid and had the same thoughts about living in a matrix type thing. Had all kinds of stuff written down. I thought it was just stuff I came up with though... only to later on read all this other stuff...

    Creepy.
     
  6. tikoo

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    I'll think it's just as well to think of 3d as a single spatial dimension . 2d space is useless . There's nothing there ,
    certainly no life , and we only relate to life . 3d describes our common physical existence - one aspect of space -
    our life and death is here . Let 3d refer only to physical ,utilitarian , find yer flashlight in the dark perception . It
    is one aspect of space and there is another . That life is there also is the only reason to consider it . I'll encourage
    all of you to explore its touch . Life relates to life and as well , life is kind .
     
  7. Moonglow181

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    Life is not always kind....ever see a predator rip apart anopther animal for survival.....Life and nature are just survival. We find the beauty in all of it....with a poet's heart....or we can be devastated by it....as many are in the wakes of hurricanes and things like that. This must be off the original subject, though.
     
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  8. MeAgain

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    Speaking of 2 and 3 dimensions...I would suggest the book Flatland written in 1884 about 2 dimensional beings and what happens when a 3 dimensional "alien" invades their realm.

    Here's the audio book.

    There is also a movie or two on YouTube.
     
  9. AceK

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    a higher dimensional being could pop into our existence and interact with it, then vanish as it moves through our 3-dimensional plane.
     
  10. AmericanTerrorist

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    Is this concept totally different from or similar to the concept that I've read in the book "Hyperspace" by Michio Kaku- where the example is used of a fish pond and how to the fish that is their world. But if we were to put our hand into the fish pond and take a fish out and then put it back in....what would the fish think, etc?
     
  11. newbie-one

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    The article says "2 D Hologram", but the quote from Hogan is

    So that's not consistent. I think that there is some theory that the whole universe got sucked into a black hole, and that all that's left is this 2D layer of information, but I think that they're just trying to fuck with our heads, and in any case, there's no real evidence for it, and it's also not what this article is about.


    Sorry, no, I see zero evidence of that from this article.

    What their research seems to be about is detecting quantum effects at a larger-than-quantum scale. Stuff jumps around at the quantum level, and they want to see if bigger stuff jumps around too. That's fine, interesting enough. It's not showing that we live in a fucking hologram, or anything about the damn matrix.

    I think scientists have learned to try to jazz up their research to the press, because the attention helps to get their research published and noticed, not to mention funding.

    You could take essentially any scientific research, as long is it's obscure and fancy sounding enough, tell people, "...and that could mean that we are living in the matrix!", and people will trip out.
     
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    I'd really love to see what you're talking about there.

    I googled it. All I got was stuff like this http://www.nature.com/news/did-a-hyper-black-hole-spawn-the-universe-1.13743 (about the possibility of instead of the big bang a 4D star collapsing into a black hole spawned the universe.)

    and stuff about like... how every black hole creates a new universe.
     
  13. AceK

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    think about a peice of paper .. a flat 2D plane. iif you stick ur finger through the flat paper then it will be visible to anyone existing within that 2D space at the point of intersection. but they will only be aware of 2 of its dimensions .. the X and Y dimensions that happen to lie in that same plane .. the rest of the Y dimension lies outside of their plane of existence.

    this isnt exactly the same thing as the link is talking about tho
     
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    ^ i need to edit one Y to Z above but i cant edit anymore ... meant the Z dimension is outside the plane
     
  15. MeAgain

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    This would be analogous to a hologram which encodes the whole in all parts, no matter how small.

    You have to read the accompanying paper, and I almost got it, but I got lost...maybe I'm too tired!
    It seems to have to do with Planck length and the impossibility of knowing the location of any two objects less than one planck length apart.
     
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    LIFE is kind ! And it is essential to this subject . I already addressed the reason why , and at this point
    reason can only indicate a direction . Direction is what philosophy gives to science .

    In conciousness , life will be more and more .
     
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    the Flatlande

    what of the boundary that was violated ? it may have an appearance , an energetic glimmering that is visionary 3d . Then, too , the
    residents of 2d toyland are physical , having form and motion , yet not at all like we . life of 4d will be again different - not made of earth .
    if not earth , then what ? ....light , enfolded physics~!!! ... light is not alien to our world .

    2d is no space , of the dead . govt researchers would have you dead and meaningless .
     
  18. AceK

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    could the boundary be the Higgs Field? idk, im so just guessing ;)
     
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    I know something of teleportation . It's probable a wholistic description of space would account for it .
     

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