why do you ask for a sign?

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  1. seahorse

    seahorse Senior Member

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    Psalm 78:1-20





    What God Has Done for His People

    My friends, I beg you to listen as I teach. I will give instruction and explain the mystery of what happened long ago. These are things we learned from our ancestors, and we will tell them to the next generation. We won't keep secret the glorious deeds and the mighty miracles of the LORD.

    God gave his Law to Jacob's descendants, the people of Israel. And he told our ancestors to teach their children, so that each new generation would know his Law and tell it to the next. Then they would trust God and obey his teachings, without forgetting anything God had done.

    They would be different from their ancestors, who were stubborn, rebellious, and unfaithful to God. The warriors from Ephraim were armed with arrows, but they ran away when the battle began. They broke their agreement with God, and they turned their backs on his teaching.

    They forgot all he had done, even the mighty miracles he did for their ancestors near Zoan in Egypt. God made a path in the sea and piled up the water as he led them across. He guided them during the day with a cloud, and each night he led them with a flaming fire. God made water flow from rocks he split open in the desert, and his people drank freely, as though from a lake. He made streams gush out like rivers from rocks.

    But in the desert, the people of God Most High kept sinning and rebelling. They stubbornly tested God and demanded from him what they wanted to eat. They challenged God by saying, "Can God provide food out here in the desert? It's true God struck the rock and water gushed out like a river, but can he give his people bread and meat?"

     
  2. Daniel Herring

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    Cool! I remember that one.

    Asking for signs is the same thing as building a wall: it is an act intended to seperate.
     
  3. heron

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    Considering that the people in the desert were still
    pantheists, the wondering if their "One God" could
    take the role of their many before.

    He just kept stepping up to show them he could.
     
  4. seahorse

    seahorse Senior Member

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    good posts, dudes.

    my reason for posting this is, people ask for signs, or proof, before they can believe. But even people who DO believe, and DO recieve signs, like the miracles in this passage, still have a hard time believeing that God will come through, even though He has proven Himself faithful over and over again. So, getting signs is not the answer. You have to believe to understand, not understand to believe.
     
  5. heron

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    I don't need signs from my gods, but
    seeing one always makes me feel good.

    Whenever i go on a jourey, by car or canoe,
    there is almost always a blue heron flying over
    me towards the end when i am almost home.

    Blue Heron is my totem spirit, and seeing
    helps me answer questions, learn lessons,
    or sometimes just feel watched over.
     
  6. seahorse

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    we obviously have different Gods Heron, but i can really relate to what you are saying. I dont NEED signs from GOd either. But I have a huge thing for the moon...it is like God's lullaby to me...I could stare at it for hours, and it's like GOd is right beside me, it never stops being an amazing thing to me, and it always reminds me of God's majesty. When i am upset sometimes, i look at the moon and it's so reassuring. It's just dangling there in the sky...God;s nightlight for his kids..so we dont trip and fall in the dark....i love that, and It's beautiful to me that He thought of everything.


    I also have a strong spiritual connection with Canadian Geese...when they fly over head in the spring or fall, i praise God! I have since i was a little girl, i remember clapping and jumping up and down waving and yelling "have a great holiday" or "welcome back" ....anothe way God touches my heart through nature....oh,there are sooo many others, but those two really stick close.

    i love God. yup. i do. :)

    even though i feel very weak in spirit lately, He is closer than breath.
     
  7. heron

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    Thats beautiful.

    I hope you find your spirit,
    and can walk in life with your
    god, and his geese, watching
    over you.

    I love people with good faith,
    and yes, we differ in worship,
    but we are the same in our love
    of our faith and with that we are
    brother and sister.
     
  8. seahorse

    seahorse Senior Member

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    * overcome with goosebumps *
     
  9. Colours

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    the story has a pretty weak ending.
     
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