Why do so many British dislike their fellow Europeans

VG

I mean man have you not noticed that you keep getting trashed so why do you keep posting so much crap.

I mean it would be so easy to go away and get educated instead of embarrassing yourself almost daily, I mean you must have realised your stance on Brexit is crap from the fact you can’t answer my simple question so why torture yourself this way for my entertainment?

 

As long as you simply rephrase that question like no one inc. VG has never made any attempt to give such arguments, yes, its partly on you too im afraid.
I agree the explanations i saw (and i think i saw most) were lacking, and eventually most convo partners gave up + when a person like VG does answer somewhat directly its smartassed and mainly looking witty and ironic or sarcastic, and imo deliberately lacking clarity or a real straight forward explanation, but they did give THEIR arguments

 

Well, this latest one is nonsensical

$400 TRILLION HOLE? Actual US debt may be 2,000% of GDP, says Wall Street report


So basically their social security committments until the end of everyones lifetime added up into the current year

Just because you were able to find 'A' source, doesnt make it legitimate

 

Asmo

But were they rational arguments?

I don’t ask for just an argument but a rational argument, something coherent and based on something more than wishful thinking or falsehoods.

I mean someone could say that they supported Brexit because they think the EU is run by Sauron the Abhorred, Lord of Mordor – I mean that is an argument - but given that Sauron is a fictional character from the book Lord of the Rings it isn’t a rational argument.

The problem is that so far all the leaver arguments have carried as much weight as the Sauron example.

 

With enough Bajoran slaves collecting it for you I daresay the effect would be enrichment. Trust.

 

Gul

As the 263 rule of acquisition says Never allow doubt to tarnish your lust for latinum.

 

Asmo

But more seriously the problem for leavers is that there is no rational argument for Brexit for most it is based on ‘feelings’ and for other it’s about hatred.

Many find it very hard to articulate their anti-EU feelings because if examined they fall apart, for example the ‘feeling’ that the UK was been ruled by the EU that forced us to follow their rules against our will.

But when asked to fill out these feeling they discover they can't, they can neither give example of the rules and regulations or of the UK been forced into using them.

You see for years the anti-EU media have been lying about the EU and the fairy tales they spread are still out there (the bendy banana one is still been used even when it has been debunked a million times), but the thing is that those anti-EU fairy tales were meant to instil ant-EU ‘feelings’ but never had any substance or basis in fact the media depended on the punters not looking into them so when the people who got bamboozled by them come to try and defend them they discover they can’t, they are ghost arguments hollow and empty.

The other thing that went on was politicians of both parties when in government blaming the EU for things that were actually under their control, that they had to do something or something was the way it was because the EU had told them to do it, when that wasn’t actually the case. Again it is actually very hard to base rational argument on lies.

Then you get the ideologically driven hatred of the EU with those on the right that think the EU is too socialist and would like it destroyed so a neoliberal utopia can be set up in its place. And although less in number there are those on the left who think the EU is too neoliberal and want it gone so they can set up a socialist utopia.

But again dogmatic ideologies seldom stand up well to rational enquiry.

The problem is that we are getting closer to the crunch point where feelings based on fantasy and mindless hatred comes up against hard reality and the unicorn falls into the meat grinder

 

Everyone wants to bail out Italy again in the not too distant future, then they are just paying for 98 years of corruption in that country, just further enabling and supporting that corruption

 

I've found the French to be very anti the English language. Maybe they think that if you speak English you from England.

 

I work throughout europe or rather I did until covid19. The only people I dislike and dont trust (not hate) are Romanians and Turks, neither of which i would class as European.

 

What about Albanians? And how are citizens from Romania not european?