Why do so many British dislike their fellow Europeans

Discussion in 'U.K.' started by Balbus, Jan 15, 2020.

  1. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    LOL so why are you going on about Moldovians and is Moldova even a EU member state at the moment?
     
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  2. Dunnaknockit

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    But isn't the acceptance of the Euro and the surrender of a country's own currency the first sign of the erosion of an individual nation's cultural identity?
     
  3. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    No, not neccesarily.
     
  4. IT's like everyone accepting the one currency to use all over their continent.
    For example you have the Australian Dollar here in Australia. Everywhere you go and visit you can use the same currency as what you use when at home.
    In America you have USA currency which is used all over the country.
    What you pay your bills with helps your country's finances grow
     
  5. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Why not just have the one currency the world over then? Would eliminate the profiteering currency exchange firms do for starters

    US dollar is the global defacto currency, more legit than their home currency in many countries around the world

    The main reason is governments wouldn't be able to devalue their own currency on purpose with a currency that's not theirs

    Another reason the eurozone is a bad idea
     
  6. Because every country is different.

    As what i learned from @Balbus in the brexit thread not every country is the same. They all have different currencies and different ways of governing their country.

    This brexit thing is doing to damage England's relationships with many other countries who are part of the UK who have chosen to leave the EU.

    It fucks everything up for them all because England have brexit and the others think that brexit stinks.
     
  7. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    The ones with staff member tag are admin here. They're the ones you need to suck up to, to be moderator.

    Last time I mentioned the lack of female mods, one of them listed three we have, two of which haven't been seen in years, and I don't remember seeing drummingmama lately either, so there should be a spot open
     
  8. All i'm saying is listen to every one of the staff here. Even if they just have super mod as their title and that's it. Listen to them.
    Balbus knows what he's on about when he talks about Brexit. As does Vlad.
    Those people need to be respected and listened to.
    So when i read their posts i'm actually learning something myself.
    It is like when you notice a movie that you wanted to go see at your local cinema and you get all the reviews. You learn a lot from those reviews about those who wrote them.

    As for moderating that's up to @ZenKarma and @skip i'm not going to apply for anything soon unless they privately ask me.

    I have to respect them a little more which i am trying to do.

    In regards to others who mod good on them if they have females moderating some boards.
    This place is full of diversity.
     
  9. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    Dun

    OK first I’d say this was evasion.

    The main question was – What is the UK’s sense of identity?

    Can you please explain what you see as the UK ‘identity’?
     
  10. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    Dun

    1) OK I’d first point out that we don’t use the euro and don’t have to, It is recommended but countries don’t have to they can opt out and for example Denmark had a referendum to choose to accept the euro and decided not to.

    2) In what way does the medium of exchange effect a counties identity?

    Isn’t it a just a matter of there been a medium of exchange rather than what is used for it, I mean be it sea shells, ingots, banks notes or gold-pressed latinum how does that have an effect on ‘identity’?

    These days I seldom use cash as most things in London are paid for by bank card so if I use a Hong Kong and Shanghai bank card to I have to identify as Chinese?

    And can you point to where French or German identity has been changed by the adoption of the Euro?

    Sorry but this seems like an incredibly weak argument.
     
  11. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    VG

    So let’s see one moment you sing the virtues of the US dollar a federal type currency accepted in 50 American states but rile against the euro a federal type currency accepted by 19 European states.

    As I’ve said before your arguments have nothing to do with rationality or reason it seems driven purely by hatred of the ‘socialist’ EU.
     
  12. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Lolz, you can say that a thousand times, which by now I think you have.

    Doesn't make it true


    I'm going to try again, I know you are not going to understand.

    What do I mean about a country undervalueing its own currency on purpose?




    For everyone else, a quick lecture:

    "The detailed causes of the crisis also varied from country to country. In several countries, private debts arising from a property bubble were transferred to sovereign debt as a result of banking system bailouts and government responses to slowing economies post-bubble. The structure of the eurozone as a currency union (i.e., one currency) without fiscal union (e.g., different tax and public pension rules) contributed to the crisis and limited the ability of European leaders to respond.[4][5] European banks own a significant amount of sovereign debt, such that concerns regarding the solvency of banking systems or sovereigns are negatively reinforcing."

    European debt crisis - Wikipedia
     
  13. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    VG

    LOL and your point is what?

    I mean the total U.S. debt including all forms of government, state, local, financial and entitlement liabilities comes close to 2,000% of the US’s GDP, according to the assets management firm AB Bernstein.

    And private debt is huge some 14 trillion, higher than it was before the 2008 crash.

    And that the thing where did the 2008 crisis originate - not in the EU but in the US.

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    I’m sorry mate but you have NEVER been able to explain in any way why Brexit is supposed to have any benefit to the UK or its people. YOU STILL CAN’T
     
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  14. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Lolz, brought to you by Russia today dot com
     
  15. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    I think Balbus actually points out a clear fallacy in what you seem to try to convey here in regards to the euro. What's the dubious and differing part why the euro is the problem in a way the dollar isn't to the federation of US?
    You can blame your convo partners for not seeing it, just put it in simple yet clear wording for us then (if you really have a point other than a rhetorical argument). Thanks in advance :)
     
  16. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    VG

    Unless you think Russia Today owns CNBC

    Now can you answer the question - can you explain in any rational way why Brexit is supposed to benefit the UK or its people.
     
  17. Vanilla Gorilla

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    What do you think everyone else sees when reading these threads, you will notice they don't ever bother replying to Balbus

    Let's wait for Dunnaknockit to get back to him first
     
  18. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Everyone sees two people going around in circles.
     
  19. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    VG

    Or YOU could answer the question I’ve been asking you for about three years without success

    Can you explain in any rational way why Brexit is going to be good for the UK or its people?
     
  20. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    Asmo

    LOL, I’m not even sure it’s a circle more like a series of car crashes

    The car starts (VG makes a statement) the car accelerates (someone here explains why he is wrong and ignorant of the subject) the car hits a brick wall (I ask the question he has no answer to so he runs away or changes the subject).
     

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