Why Do Dutch People Hate Admitting They Are German

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  1. roamy

    roamy Senior Member

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    Just curious, as it's a well known fact that the Dutch language is a West Germanic language.
     
  2. Sig

    Sig Senior Member

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    That doesn't make them German. Though, to be honest, I am not surprised you don't understand the difference. I mean, hell, English is a West Germanic language. Are the English Germans too?
     
  3. bird_migration

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    Exactly. I am amazed at such ignorance.
     
  4. r0llinstoned

    r0llinstoned Gute Nacht, süßer Prinz

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  5. Kinky Ramona

    Kinky Ramona Back by popular demand!

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    Really? Amazed? I'm barely surprised myself.
     
  6. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    Why do Irish Catholics say they are not Roman Catholics?
    That is another super smart question.
     
  7. bird_migration

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    Well yes, I am amazed at such ignorance. I am sure Irish people won't admit they are English. Or Americans won't admit that. Etc.
     
  8. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    I found the Netherlands to be a really diverse sort of culture. Much like Germany, the culture differs from north to south and east to west. The northern realms I remember the people being really different from the inland folk. Distinguishable by look to an extent. Though the Normans weren't really Dutch at all if I can recall.

    And anyway, everyone has a problem with being German in Europe because no one wants to think they were in any way part of WW2.

    Also there's a history of bad blood between all our neighbors.

    And we kicked all their asses at some point so they just jealous.
     
  9. bird_migration

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    But we always kick your ass when it really matters.
     
  10. roamy

    roamy Senior Member

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    yes, contrary to your premature assumptions, i am already very much aware of the fact that english is a also a west germanic language. that originates from the anglo-frisian dialects,which was brought to england by german invaders and?or other settlers from various parts of what is now northwest germany and the netherlands.but the fact remains that dutch people are in actually fact still germans who formed their own nation.and going back to the topic of the thread,my question was and still is,why ductch people hate admitting they are german ?
     
  11. LetLovinTakeHold

    LetLovinTakeHold Cuz it will if you let it

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    The same reason Americans won't admit to bein British.......they aren't.
     
  12. bird_migration

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    I think we all would admit that we are Germanic people. But since we are a different country than Germany we are not Germans. Easy as that. Why would we admit something that is incorrect?
     
  13. Sig

    Sig Senior Member

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    I suppose I really shouldn't be surprised by your childlike understanding of all this.

    You're confusing German with Germanic. The Dutch are Germanic but not German. The Anglo-Saxons, who came from areas in what we today call the Netherlands, Germany, and Denmark are Germanic, but not Germans.

    My question to you still stands; are the English Germans? You seem to be basing your ridiculous idea solely based on language, so are they Germans too?
     
  14. Jimmy P

    Jimmy P bastion of awesomeness

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    Why indeed.
    That means Americans, Canadians, Australians, Kiwis, South Africans are also all Germans. Since they all speak English. Which is a Germanic language.

    Hey! What about those who are multilingual? If I speak Japanese, but I am Dutch, which am I? Oh, what if my mom is Thai but I was raised in England -Thai is my mother language, so am I Thai? My English is probably better. Am I now German?
     
  15. newbie-one

    newbie-one one with the newbiverse

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    I'm not aware of there being any issue with Dutch people over zealously dissociating themselves with Germany.

    The languages are probably pretty similar. There is probably a lot of ethnic and cultural similarity too. There has been a distinct Dutch national identity and government for hundreds of years though, so it would be understandable if someone got a bit irritated if they were pressed to admit that they were really German.

    I suppose they may also not like Germany too.

    I guess it's like asking why the Portuguese don't admit that they are Spanish or why Canadians don't admit that they're Americans.
     
  16. roamy

    roamy Senior Member

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    i take it you mean british/americans ?
     
  17. roamy

    roamy Senior Member

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    gemanic is merely a term used to which means relating to or denoting the branch of the the indo-european language.that family branch consists of german, english,scandinavian and gothic,plus frisian and dutch.basicallly germanic means the language of the germans.
     
  18. LetLovinTakeHold

    LetLovinTakeHold Cuz it will if you let it

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    I can't see any reason why you would.
     
  19. LetLovinTakeHold

    LetLovinTakeHold Cuz it will if you let it

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    As I understand it, yes.

    I'm pretty sure German is the language of the Germans.


    Your logic does not compute.
     
  20. eggsprog

    eggsprog anti gang marriage HipForums Supporter

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    Why does roamy hate posting legibly?
     

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