Why are The Taliban not treated as Nazis?

I dont understand why every government in the West, and most of the others as well cannot respond to Taliban as they would to any other insane regime.
I think they are worse than Nazis. Certainly more dangerous and less liable to stop because they have kidded themselves into thinking that they have "God on their side"
Here we have people who treat women worse than barnyard animals, and they get away with it. Women cannot laugh, sing or dance. They cannot show their face, they cannot talk to men, be educated, drive, shop, vote or otherwise express themselves. They must live in fear and subjugation.
Remember what black people had to go through to get rights?
Remember what western women had to go through to get votes?
What is this - the 15th fucking century?
How can behaviour like this be tolerated AT ALL?
Is it because westerners cannot discuss it because "It would be rasict"
Evil joyless shitheads are evil joyless shitheads no matter what their race, relgion, creed or color. Lets treat them accordingly eh?
Or is it because we are frightened of them?
I think yes, to a large extent. There are world leaders really talking about "opening a dialogue with the taliban"
This is akin to trying to negotiate with a poisinous spider.
Wouldn't it be great if modern world leaders were more motivated by morality, equality and justice than by trade links and forging new political allies.
End of rant.


for now....

 

The situation with the Taliban is a lot more complicated than what was Nazi Germany at the start of WW2. For one thing the Taliban as of now doesn't control any one country. They are shadowy.While Hitler controlled nearly all of western europe at a time and presented a much more immediate threat to Western Civilizations. The taliban military might is relatively weak, relying on guerilla tactics and IEDS, a war of attrition. Also the fact that many Taliban supporters reside in Pakistan which is it's own sovereign nation whether the USA refuses to recognize it or not.Nazi Germany was a military machine, unmatched by anything seen before. Lighting fast campaigns that blew through the east with force. Conquered most of Western Europe in very little time. In those times the remaining Western nations had no other choice but to respond to Nazi Germany. It was fight or be conquered in the beginnings of the war. Many other countries sees this "War with Taliban" as a pointless never ending blood bath. Where true victory will never be known, unless you wipe out the entire population. Westerners invading and trying to set up new governments in the east never goes well. They might submit but they will always hate you, especially if you infringe upon their religious beliefs. And the nonpartisans will always gravitate more towards culturally similar groups. It begs the question. Who is the Taliban? and how do you differentiate between civilian and Taliban. I'm sure if you polled the Afgahn people most would say they see the US negatively and wish to see them leave. Many would probably say the same about the Taliban as well. But in the end cultural similarities will usually trump anything else, and you see those nonpartisans gravitate more towards the other. Look to history. And no way are the Taliban more dangerous than the nazis were. For christs sake London was having the shit bombed out of it during world war 2, a lot of the city reduced to rubble. There ceased to exist France as a sovereign country along with plenty of others. The Taliban and the Nazis are not comparable except for the fact that both seem to ruthlessly follow and enforce a misguided view of reality.Any more war will break this country. We must fix this country that is the most dire problem this country faces. Lobbyists, corporations, and marionette cookie cutter politicians are the true enemies of Americans. While they try to sell you the boogeymen of the Terrorist to try to distract you from the ones to truly go after. Sell you fear. A true patriot will defend his freedom and civil liberties and the integrity of the dream that was once America by questioning and speaking out against those that seek to poison it for their own gain.Even if they represent the United States today. You cannot claim to go fighting for liberty and freedom in foreign countries when you take it away at home. Look to the Patriot Act and all the other filth passed under the table. Hyp for Hypocratic.

 

Good points, well made. I agree that we should fix our own place rather than getting involved with messes elewhere. There is the issue though that USA and UK have actually made those messes in the first place. We empowered Taliban because we wanted them to fight the Russians and thus made the mistake of thinking that "enemy of my enemy is my friend"
Pakistan is a big problem. As is Somalia. Both perfect hiding and training places for Taliban. Hers a thought though. We give vast amounts of foreign aid to those countries. Much of the aid never gets to where it should because it is intercepted, goods sold or traded for arms. Why can we not say to those foreign governments - not another penny for you until you take care of these people. Western forces can never win any kind of land battle with Taliban on their own territory its true.

 

For being named nazis they must be both nationalist and socialist (nationalsocialist).
Can you explain how those 2 criteria are fullfilled?

 

That was my initial thought too, midgard ... but on reading the OP's post, I think what he means is "why aren't we treating them the same way that we did the Nazis", not "why aren't we treating them as thought they were Nazis".

I think ...

 

Definitely agree. But Pakistan could really care less about the United States agenda in Afghanistan. They have shown that through their actions. Still will never understand how a country that is in a financial state as the United States is, is giving money to a country like Pakistan. Something tells me there is more going on behind that. And as for Somalia, the country is way too weak to do anything about that. There is no clear leader and they have a closer problem in Al-Shabaab to worry about at home. Really there is no more reason to go after the Taliban. The taliban aren't the same as they were 10 years ago. For the most part they are very weak now, and most now reside in the tribal areas of Pakistan where they have strong civilian support. Not by choice but a lot of the times by threat of force and fear. That's where things become the problem, because then the civilians suffer if we target those Taliban. Finishing off the Taliban, if that could ever be accomplished, would involve invading Pakistan. A war with Pakistan or Somalia is a war like Afghanistan. One that could never truly be won. It will turn into a sectarian guerrilla insurgency just like the rest. Not to mention that the US cannot afford any more wars, unless China keeps accepting promissory notes.


The whole terrorist thing is being blown up more than it actually is currently. Al Qaeda is a shadow of its former self. Bin Laden is commonly accepted to be dead. You can't tell me that beefed up security at home isn't going to stop jackasses like the underwear bomber and those other fools. Hell 9/11 could have and should have been prevented. No need to invade any more countries especially Muslim ones, just gives them another reason on the long list to hate us. But say that to the Oil Barons and they would laugh at you. Control the source and you control the world economy. I mean it's all about oil anyways. Look at the situation with Iran for instance. I say let the rest of the world solve it's own problems, stop this illusion of America being the worlds policeman. It is not needed and it's breaking this country and ruining the ideals it was founded on. We sacrifice our integrity as a nation. How far will we go before it stops? What happened to the America that prevented that POS President Wilson from getting us in the League of Nations? What happened to the America that never wanted to enter WW1? That strong spirit of isolationism and libertarianism. I guess it's somewhat naive to think that spirit could survive in the modern world, but nonetheless I'm really tired of war hawks.They are pervasive in this country. Maybe if we didn't run around with a gun in our hand so often a lot of nations and people would be less hostile to us. If we took a true neutral stance in the world. Now is the time to focus inward instead of outward. For the ones that truly love this country, know that changes need to be made. And I mean BIG changes.