Why are psychedelics

So rare? It seems I will never find mescaline/acid/dmt etc. Was it hard for you guys to find the rarer substances?

 

Mescaline and DMT took me years to find, I didn't find LSD when I sought it out but shortly thereafter I landed some. There are tons of newer synthetic psychedelics that are easily attainable.

 

They are not money making drugs. No incentive to sell them for the typical dealer. He will focus more on things like pills, coke, weed, the things everyone wants.

But once you find the right people, it's still around OP.

 

I suppose I will keep searching I am sure I will find what I am looking for. I am thinking about morning glory, because I have heard it is similar to LSD

 

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not really. Morning glories (LSA) may get you buzzed, but it will not have the depth and insight of LSD.

 

Around here, it's just because people like to get high rather than have an experience. Most people do is a couple grams of mushrooms when it comes to psychedelics, so most stuff I either order in or get from out of town. There's also waves of them because not everybody likes to be flying high in the sky on Lucy all of the time, so the illegal market doesn't feel a need to sell it all the time. It could also be because they work in mysterious ways and surface when you're not looking for them. Love n light, hope you find your psychedelic path!

 

Well I have already done shrooms so I am already on my path I hope to find the rarer stuff one day. I am also looking into other, more common things, like LSA which I have already mentioned. I am also looking on Grasscity, I had no idea you could order legal shit right through the internet. I am currently seeking shrooms again also.

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Always nice to meet a fellow Ontarian! Yes, certain psychedelics can be legally purchased on the internet (usually advertised as incense or research specimens). I wouldn't recommend Grasscity, as a couple friends have gotten bunk "alternative" products from them, not to mention they are ridiculously overpriced. Something to keep in mind is that if a site advertises something as "legal highs", it's usually going to be pretty bunk. I would go ahead and do some vendor searching on the web for sites that market their stuff as organic incenses/herbals and whatnot because you'll actually find good quality stuff there! Unfortunately, I don't think there's sposed to be much vendor talk in these forums so that these items are respected and kept available to all. Have a good one!

 

I have to disagree with that. LSA can be a wonderful psychedelic. I had one of the strongest trips of my life visually and mentally off of 450 Heavenly Blue MG's. It all depends on the LSA content of the seeds and on the individual. The depth and insight may not be inherently as strong as LSD but it is still very much there and it can do far more than get you buzzed

 

The right drug will find you at the right time.

 

have a look for the fabric path that will lead you happieness.

 

Agreed. Although I do not consume MGs for the life of me anymore, I do rather enjoy HBWR as a powerful psychedelic (when it is of good quality). Ololiqui has got to my favorite though, as it gives me the clearest headspace to let my thoughts run wild, as well as being minimal in bad side effects. Unfortunately, it does take a hefty amount of Ololiqui to reach that point.

 

Its ALL about knowing the right people. Right now, I feel like im seeing more psychedelics around than I ever have.

 

The psychedelic market kind of sucks from my experience, everything is around when you don't have the funds or interest, and when you want something it's unattainable. If I wanted pot, I'll get it the day of, if I'm looking for LSD or shrooms, it takes forever.

Really makes you respect the experience more though.

I also agree that it's not something that's easy to sell. You can't take psychedelics every day or in fact that much in a month like you can with pot, so it takes a lot of people to be interested in the drug for it to be profitable for a dealer. There's also not that big of a movement for psychedelics now, everything now seems to be about synthetics.

LSA is an experience, I'd say it's worth a go if you really can't find anything else.

 

tell that to heroin addicts

 

Perhaps that is not the right drug for them anymore at that point

 

Seriously?

WTF?

This ^:2thumbsup:

 

Psychedelics are rare because of their very pharmacological nature. They aren't like cocaine, alcohol, or weed where you can simply take them all the time and at any time and have fun and socialize. They're also rather stigmatized in society and the average person has very bizarre and unrealistic notions about what psychedelics are and what they do. Mention LSD to anyone who isn't familiar with it and they'll envisage people jumping out of multi-story buildings with the intention of flying, people going permanently insane upon the mere administration of the drug, and other rather weird and ridiculous impressions.

So, a steady diet of propaganda coupled with the fact that these types of compounds cannot just be picked up and taken on the spur of the moment to elevate mood or mollify depression means that most people want nothing to do with them.

It's a familiar case spanning the entirety of the hallucinogenic family of drugs, really. Dissociatives like PCP, for example, have become so stigmatized that it has the capacity to induce nightmares and irrational and ill-founded fear and panic in people just with the mentioning of its name.

A 5+ hour long unpredictable, tempestuous ride through the depths of one's psyche whilst experiencing sheer stimulatory overload of the senses wherein every conceivable means of perception that bounds you to reality (touch, sight, sound, taste, smell, cognition, etc.) being manipulated and toyed with relentlessly and without a modicum of predictability may definitely sound like the experience to have, but it can make for a real turn-off for the common person.

It's too complex; too inconceivable. Whereas you can take a crack rock, put it in a pipe, put a flame to it and become stimulated for a few minutes. It's simple to understand, it's straight to the point, the experience is linear, its effects are desirable in our fast past society and you can do it under any circumstances. All which make for a better drug in Joe Blow's opinion.

 

^ Shrooms and LSD are more common and sought after drug experiences compared to smoking crack from all the drug users I've met. I think that comparison is a silly one, crack is a highly stigmatized drug in society.

 

Crack is stigmatized no more than any other hard drug. Yet have you visited any sizable city lately? Hard drugs are only second to marijuana in terms of how prolific their use and users are in Western society. In many metropolises, people who're addicted to hard drugs comprise a large part of the demographic. Perhaps you aren't meeting enough drug users outside your environment (which is presumably comprised of people with similar tastes in drugs as you) to garner an accurate perception of reality.

Cocaine (and its alternate form, crack cocaine) is the mostly widely used drug in the United States, second only to marijuana, according to statistics issued by the U.S. Department of Justice (source: http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/dcf.pdf)

Most hallucinogens hardly even register on most statistics of drug use. Those intense psychedelics like DMT, LSD, mescaline, psilocybin, etc., aren't even to be found in such statistical analyses of drug use. Presumably, those types of drugs are used by about 10^-7 percent of the general population of the U.S.

The most obvious and pertinent question that could be asked in light of this is why do hallucinogenic plants and mushrooms that are highly plentiful and readily found in nature not enjoy a similar ease of availability and high abundance within society? I surmise that the answer to that question would resemble the suppositions I made in my last comment. After all, supply and demand is one of the most basic tenets of economics. Rarely is a commodity's demand immoderately higher than its supply, insofar as that commodity is easy to produce or acquire. In the drug market, the demand of a given drug is usually in near equilibrium with its supply. A paucity of the drug on the market typically reflects a lack of interest in that drug on a consumer level. LSD, however, is rare because of its demanding and arduous synthesis. Psilocybin mushrooms, however? They grow pervasively in many regions. What reasons do you have to account for the dearth of these being sold on the drug market other than scant interest on the parts of average drug users?