So the 9/11 thread has me wondering what most people think.... So if this all works okay it should be an anonymous poll. Please vote... Thank you.
Well the other thread was people debating, debating, debating....and instead of reading all that, I just wanna see a poll and see what most people think. The debating can stay in the other thread.
Well I can't say exactly what happened. But I can say the following:- 1)Al Qaeda was created by the US 2)The US Establishment has a history of false flags AND lying thro their teeth. eg Operation Northwoods, Saddam's "WMDs", "invading for human rights" etc 3)The US Establishment has a history of giving up MILLIONS of lives for bizarre aims eg Vietnam. 4)The US has a history of sacrificing 100s of 1000s of American lives for bizarre aims. 5)Bush said there was "warning fatigue" ie they got tired of listening to warnings of attacks...with the suggestion being that they thoight it sensible to ignore some 6)Putin warned Bush of an attack the day before. 7)Reading little kids a story after being told "America is under attack" shows a fuckwit with an eye for bad pr. 8)The rest of the story doesn't add up. THe passport of an arab fluttering on the rubble pile. Nothing from the black boxes etc. The mysterious collapse of the towers. The fact the planes weren't shot down. The fact no real evidence of a plane hitting the Pentagon ever emerged. The possible collusion with Bush's cousin doing security at the site. The fact the hijackers trained in the US. The irregularities relating to Daniel Perl etc. 9)Politicians are often a scummy brigade and no lie is too big for the "greater good" type mentality. 10)The Project for a New American Century website typified the type of scum who were running America. 11)Many important and credible experts around the world, even former top republican politicians accept the official story sounds like bullshit. I would suspect at the very least, the US govt wanted it to happen. So they could justify military campaigns and other shit. So they ignored massive threats. Perhaps the planes were electronically hacked. It was likely certain key parts of the official story were bullshit. Possibly there was a "Manchur.ian Can.didate" type recruitment of so called terrorists, by the US. I'm pretty sure America wanted to secure key Middle Eastern territories before Russia began reexerting itself and China began exerting themselves on the World stage. Lying is just second nature to scum like Bush and Cheney. The only thing that surprises me is that some people could believe them.
I've certainly never seen proof that bin Laden was responsible (only the contrary). In fact, bin Laden and al-Qaeda denied having anything to do with it. It's funny that on 9/11, we were being told within minutes that bin Laden was responsible, despite having been shown no proof whatsoever of this. When you look at the sheer complexity of what took place and what would have been needed to pull off something of this magnitude, the fact that air defense stood down, the way those buildings came down etc., it's all too obvious. You don't need to be a conspiracy theorist, just have some degree of critical thinking skills. Unfortunately, people have been conditioned to believe whatever they're told by authority figures in the government and media, believing those same people serve to protect and inform them.
I should have added two more options (at least)... 1. None of the above 2. Not sure between totally inside job OR gov knowing about before and not preventing.... (guess that one can be tied into just "don't know" or "not sure" or whatever I wrote.
Why, isn’t it obvious to you by now when the government learned of the plot they not only stood-back and did nothing but they even encouraged the terrorists? The government with a new mandate in their pocket and with public support began to systematically dismantle our constitutional rights. Hotwater
A superpower must always have an outside enemy in order to maintain its relevance in the eyes of the people. If you do not have an enemy (at least not a real one that poses any real threat), you must manufacture an enemy and thus a justification to expand power across the globe in the name of "defending our interests." It's a fucking atrocity the things people have been lead to believe to make them go along with the agenda. Everything we have heard about terrorists and terrorist threats is absolute fucking bullshit designed to scare people into submission. The only terrorists that have the potential to wreak true terror and those in government, who have the resources and the motives.
Nice how Obama used the eve of the 9/11 anniversary to give his big TV speech about the need for more military action against ISIS. 13 years later and they're still milking 9/11.
The patriarchy, duh. *edit* before a bunch of feminists like this, I'm an egalitarian, feminism is trash, I'm making fun of your horseshit ideology - no offense or anything.
I tried to warn you, now you got PR all riled up again. You know every time this happens it takes forever to get him to calm down and go back to bed. *hmmm, maybe if we slip some Ambien into his glass of warm milk*
it was masterminded, planed and organized entirely within the u.s. and and within the leadership of a certain 'conservative' faction. the contractors hired to do the suicidal wetwork were appearantly of middle eastern origen. the went to school here to complete their liscenses to opporate commercial passenger aircraft. it is my understanding that they all had them. they may well have had the best of all possible reasons to be willing to kill themselves to kill others. not fanatacism alone, but having witnessed u.s. brutality toward their own immediate kin. but those were just the contractors, hired to carry out the actual deed. but the planning, direction, will, to have the event occur. that was all organized and directed within the highest escelons of the u.s. goverment. that i believe absolutely. the troika of rumsfield, cheny and rove, who were the shrub's puppet masters, are who i would name prime suspects. that it occurred relative shortly after the election of the shrub. just about the time his organization was firmly enough in place that no one could say no to, nor dare blow a whistle against. i'm sorry but i refuse to see this as mere conincidence. not what you cocatinize their phylosophy and outlook. and who and what they represented. interests that simply could not tollerate the kind of peaceful world, that the turn of the century saw earth on the brink of becoming. this doesn't mean i believe the details of how it was carried out to be substantially different then what we were told. i have no problem with the heat of exploding jet fuel causing sufficient structural weakness in buildings one and two. but that's neither here nor there. what matters is who ordered it and why. and THAT part of it, i see as being completely and utterly internal. not pearl harbor, but krystal knockt.
and two seconds ago this thread completely dissappeared and now its back again. plays theme music from jawas or twilight zone, or something.
It was Israel because they knew we'd blame Islamic terrorists and it would tie them closer to a world superpower to protect them. It was Britain because they were jealous of us becoming the new world leader in trade It was the Russians: specifically, a secret KGB group that survived the collapse of the Soviet Union and wanted to strike a devastating blow against capitalist America It was a black teen gang from the ghetto who thought it would be the ultimate act of vandalism - Justin Bieber was involved with this one It was Hawaiian nationalists wanting to say FUCK YOU, UNCLE SAM It was yo' mamma farting It's what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass It was aliens Get your tinfoil hats out The government is making me type this shit It was the government, because we want to kill 3000 people and destroy our most valuable business asset - namely, having one, centered WORLD TRADE CENTER right in fucking NEW YORK - who in their right mind wants to be a world trade leader? It was Prince of Nigeria - he got upset because of a scam so he sent in a suicidal hit team There were bombs placed to cover up a mass murder of business magnates, because of the dark, shady scheming of an undercover businessman intent on owning everything, and then starting world war 3 It was zombies because they were jealous everyone in the towers were still alive 9/11 is bullshit and didn't happen Someone with a big dick was jerking off, ejaculated, and blew the buildings up with the raw power of semen Jesus Christ hates businessmen God blew it up Hippies hate businessmen, they're obviously responsible. Them and the punks
There’s evidence to suggest it was all an illusion perpetrated by magician David Copperfield who in a rage after breaking up with Claudia Schiffer was overheard muttering “So that bitch wants to move to New York in the shadow of the twin towers” “well I’ll show that **** she can’t walk out on me” Hotwater