Where does LSD come from?

I´m very curious if there´s any information about where LSD actually comes from. Since it has to be produced by highly trained chemists, at least as far as I´ve heard it´s far from anything like cooking meth.

I have heard about Krystle Cole (Neurosoup) and her story; her "boyfriend" was supposed to have been responsible for almost 90% of the acid existing in the entire world? Is it usual that there are few, but really huge "LSD-factories"? Is it at least more common then smaller businesses?

I have this romantic vision where the ones making LSD are only in it to spread the glory and wisdom of LSD; and don't, or at least just slightly, care for the money...

Also, I´ve heard that a lot of sold LSD isn't really LSD either.
Is that a true fact?

What is really known about LSD- manufacturing. Where is it more common? USA, Europe?

Tell me anything you might know, or consider. Feel free to discuss!

 

it comes from chemistry/pharmaceutical majors paying their way through expensive schools

 

Well, 1 US gallon of LSD is about 19,000 strong doses, so prolly no need for huge factories.

 

LSD is still LSD. Although some people think it's a different experience then it was in the early days when it was legal. During that time you could get 100% pure LSD, but today with it being made clandestine you are likely to get impurities which in their minds make a new chemical. They are technically right, but the LSD experience is the same as long as it's mostly pure. When you get below 90% the experience really suffers IMO. And some acid is that impure today.

Erowid did a test and people were unable to tell the difference between a vile of LSD from the 1950's which was made legal, and a batch of today's street acid.

When I say impure it means the difference between 95 to 98% pure and 100 if your getting good stuff. Organic chemistry (the kind used for LSD) almost guarantees impurities anyway, so the 95% pure stuff will still do what you want it to.

But there is a big problem recently with RC's being passed off as LSD, so in that way you have to be careful, but I promise you real LSD still exists.

It really doesn't take much precursor to make allot of LSD, so I don't think you need factories. In my opinion they likely set up the lab, make allot, and have the lab down within a few weeks. If they did that they could have enough for years.

These are smart people, not your common criminal, this is why they are rarely caught, and you never hear any details of how they do it. So we don't really know their motives, if it is for money or to spread the gift of acid. But there is allot more money to me made in other drugs then LSD. The 60's are gone and people are not as interested in expanding their minds. They are afraid of LSD, they prefer drugs that get them high without the deep introspection of an LSD trip.

For example one could make MDMA, any chemist who could make LSD can make MDMA, a much easier chemical to make and to find precursors for. And it's more likely you can sell something like that.

 

From the planet Blisstonia.

 

It was a gift from God...I don't know why she waited for the prophet Albert Hoffman
to reveal it to mankind, except that the timing was favorable to give us the space-age followed by the computer age, soon to be followed by the biological age...
you don't think those things weren't inspired by LSD?

Check these cats... (bold added)

Francis Crick — LSD
Francis Crick — of the DNA-structure discovering Watson, Crick, and Franklin — reportedly told numerous friends and colleagues about his LSD experimentation during the time he spent working to determine the molecular structure that houses all life's information.
In fact, in a 2004 interview, Gerrod Harker recalls talking with Dick Kemp — a close friend of Crick's — about LSD use among Cambridge academics, and tells the Daily Mail that the University's researchers often used LSD in small amounts as "a thinking tool." Evidently, Crick at one point told Kemp that he had actually "perceived the double-helix shape while on LSD."

Kary Mullis — LSD
Who, you may be asking, is Kary Mullis? Let's put it this way: If you've worked in a biomedical research lab since the 1980's, there is an exceedingly good chance you've performed a polymerase chain reaction (aka PCR, the lab technique that can turn a single segment of DNA into millions of identical copies), or are at least familiar with it. You have Mullis to thank for that. While Mullis didn't invent the PCR technique, per se, he improved upon it so significantly as to revolutionize the field of biomedical research, securing himself a Nobel Prize in chemistry in the process.
The secret to Mullis' breakthrough? In a September, 1994 issue of California Monthly, Mullis says that he "took plenty of LSD" In the sixties and seventies, going so far as to call his "mind-opening" experimentation with psychedelics "much more important than any courses [he] ever took." A few years later, in an interview for BBC's Psychedelic Science documentary, Mullis mused aloud: "What if I had not taken LSD ever; would I have still invented PCR?" To which he replied, "I don't know. I doubt it. I seriously doubt it." [Photo via]


Steve Jobs — LSD
LSD was a big deal for Steve Jobs. How big? Evidently, Jobs believed that experimenting with LSD in the 1960s was "one of the two or three most important things he had done in his life." What's more, he felt that there were parts of him that the people he knew and worked with could not understand, simply because they hadn't had a go at psychedelics.


(ZW, not LSD but I had to put Carl in cuz he's dude)



1. Carl Sagan — Marijuana
Preeminent astrophysicist and cosmologist Carl Sagan not only smoked marijuana regularly, he was also a strong advocate for its use in enhancing intellectual pursuits — though not as publicly as others on this list. Having said that, Sagan did contribute an essay to the 1971 book titled Marijuana Reconsidered that spoke to the virtues of marijuana use. The piece was penned under the assumed name "Mr. X." The identity of its true author was only revealed after Sagan's death.
All images, unless otherwise indicated, via wikicommons



http://io9.com/5876304/10-scientific-and-technological-visionaries-who-experimented-with-drugs

 

LSD comes from the Land of Oz.

 

Dammit!.... I knew there were going to be flying monkeys involved in this somewhere.

 

No no, don't blame the poor flying monkeys, that damned wicked witch is feeding them scopalamine laced bananas!

Keep your eye on those munchkins though, I dunno what they're on...

 

I believe so, given the relative difficulty of producing the compound. In particular the instruments and precursors required are apparently very difficult to obtain as they are very specialized and law enforcement watches them.

That is indeed a very romanticized image. One could imagine a more reasonable scenario where the person investing years of training and money, and risking years of incarceration and money, would assume a fair recompense for the great work they are doing. I'm always surprised to read on forums how people can't understand that something could be an incredible, life changing experience with almost limitless value, and then be shocked that someone could therefore be expected to profit from its production and distribution. People have to put food on the table if you invest everything you have into making LSD, how are you putting food on your table? Obviously with the LSD, by selling it at profit. There is nothing immoral here, and if there is, then farmers are demons.

There are many chemicals that are potent enough to fit on blotter, and this is essentially the only characteristic required to create "fake hits". The whole family of DOx, 25x-NBOME, even things like 5-meo-amt are passed off as "acid". Even different lysergamides.

You sound a bit like a cop to be honest, or you are naive to ask such things lol. It is produced in abundance on both continents.

 

Oh! That's original!! Blame the witch! The monkies are like children to her, it isn't her fault they always want to get high!!! She's just trying to help them!

Maybe they should buckle down, and get a JOB. (That isn't kidnapping little girls, from Kansas.)

 

if the wizard didnt give all the decent jobs to his cronies then maybe the monkeys could find a better job.
there is no shame in a monkey making a hard working living.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylr2D4Pwn58"]Steely Dan - Kid Charlemagne (Live) - YouTube

 

I doubt that there are huge labs. More safe way would be to produce big batch and then take the lab down.

 

I got some from a troll under a bridge once... They aren't nice folk, I wouldn't reccommend it... Perhaps if you went further into the enchanted forest, but then again, can't really avoid crossing that damn trolls bridge!

 

You have to bring them a bunch of gnomes, they trade massive amounts of lsd for just a couple of gnomes.

 

this doesn't mean that money was his main goal though. the LSD chemist could make money in a variety of other ways, so maybe his real goal was to spread the love, but yeah, he makes some money as well so he can live.

maybe farmers enjoy growing crops. otherwise they wouldn't be farmers.

 

There was a time when that happened.

http://www.druglibrary.net/schaffer/lsd/books/belcont.htm

There's also the theory that the timing counterbalanced the development and later use of the atomic bomb. What would lead Hoffman to develop dozens of lysergimides, only to have a hunch a few years later to go back and revisit the -25 variant?
It's too bad it appears the military/industrial crowd has beaten back the psychedelic threat.

Add to the list of characters...
http://www.erowid.org/culture/characters/characters_drug_use.shtml

 

The LSD fairy sprinkles some on your eyes when your asleep

 

I thought the same thing.