When I ask a question...

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by bluesafire, Sep 15, 2008.

  1. bluesafire

    bluesafire Senior Member

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    every answer is invalid, unless it dissolves the question and along with it the questioner, as they are one and the same. Otherwise, no matter how different an answer may seem, it will only reinforce a position of one kind or another, as well as reinforce the question and the questioner.

    There is only one question being asked over and over, in different ways, in different forms, but always it is the same one. And there is always the same answer... which is that there is no question, and no questioner.

    Every moment brings this opportunity... to look and to know.
     
  2. Hoatzin

    Hoatzin Senior Member

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    Positions allow us to arrive at an answer. Refusal to take a position stalls this process. There may be only one answer to all things, with all positions being invalid, but we won't get there by pretending we already got there. It's about the journey, innit.
     
  3. LanSLIde

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    With unanswered questions come many layers of ego

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  4. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Consider yourself dissolved.
     
  5. bluesafire

    bluesafire Senior Member

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    I'd rather not, lest it becomes a story "I am dissolved." Instead I watch and see what appears here, in the space, and allow the question/answer that arises, which asks and answers: "Is this true? No." And then to not inject a "truth" but to simply allow silence as the question/answer dissolves.
     
  6. Pellinore

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    Listening to the silence, untill no questions arise, and the void that blinds our eyes, fades and truth becomes visible, becoming reborn in a new world, as the not-knowing newborn who opens its eyes for the very first times, and only sees that what is, without any emotional or abstract attachment.

    Ehehe, the way to enlightment eh? :p
     
  7. BlackBillBlake

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    This seems to me utterly wrong headed thinking. There are many different questions ranging from 'what shall we have for dinner tonight?' to 'what is the significance and meaning of human life'.
    Clearly the answer to one of these won't provide an answer to the other.
    Also, yes, there is a question - I need to decide on an actal real menu, or I won't eat - there is an answer, and getting the answer won't 'dissolve' the questioner. We're not soluable asprins or something like that you know.
     
  8. Hoatzin

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    Basically, asking any question = having an ego = bad bad bad, and if you ask why that's bad you're asking a question, thus having an ego, thus bad bad bad, and if you ask why that's bad you're asking a question, thus having an ego, thus bad bad bad, and if you ask why that's bad you're asking a question, thus having an ego, thus bad bad bad, and if you ask why that's bad you're asking a question, thus having an ego, thus bad bad bad, and if you ask why that's bad you're asking a question, thus having an ego, thus bad bad bad, and if you ask why that's bad you're asking a question, thus having an ego, thus bad bad bad, and so on.
     
  9. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    having an ego isn't bad, it's actually inescapable.

    and asking questions dont equate with egoic intentions, at least not in my book.
     
  10. kaminoishiki

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    understanding :)
     
  11. Hoatzin

    Hoatzin Senior Member

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    Nor should it.
     
  12. BlackBillBlake

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    OK - can you give an example of a non-ego based question?
     
  13. Hoatzin

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    I'm not sure I even understand what "ego-based" and "non-ego-based" are supposed to mean. Asking has just solicited a load of meandering nonsense, to be honest.
     
  14. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    yeah, clarifying what it means for something to be "ego-based" would be a good starting point.
     
  15. Hoatzin

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    Probably you have to find out for yourself. It's probably that. It's usually that. :)
     
  16. BlackBillBlake

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    Thats what I based my question on.
    By 'ego based' I meant what you call 'egoic intentions'.

    In my view the ego is the sense of a separate being, separate from other similar beings and from the surrounding reality.

    OK??
     
  17. neodude1212

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    I guess when someone says, "ego-based" they mean arising from the ego...

    but something that arises from the ego could only serve the ego.

    aren't there questions that are beyond ego? maybe that serve even to try to distill the ego?
     
  18. Hoatzin

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    I just wish I knew what's so bad about the ego? Or, since it's always agreed that, no, the ego isn't bad exactly, what's so great about the not-ego?
     
  19. BlackBillBlake

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    I think that really questions arise only from the ego on some level. For example, even a question like 'how can I best love others and be of sevice to them' arises from the ego in the sense I define it.
    I'd say that a consciousness which transcends the ego consciousness would have no questions.

    If the ego were to say to itself 'how can I dissolve myself', as the OP seems to want to do, even that comes from the ego, or is articulated by it or through it.
     
  20. bluesafire

    bluesafire Senior Member

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    Example of ego: believing the thought "I shouldn't ask questions"
     
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