When did this become tolerable?

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Dissident, Dec 19, 2005.

  1. Dissident

    Dissident Member

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    I find this to be a serious indignation. Politeness and social civility are convenient excuses we use to mask our fake encounters with one another. Understandably, one could argue they are, to a slight extent, necessary for social interacting and whatnot, but the line must be drawn somewhere. Too often do I and others choose politeness for convenience sake, rather than voicing or behaving how we truly feel. What is it that keeps us back; that causes us to bite our tongues and put on our social faces? I’m a hypocrite for criticizing others when I know I’ve been guilty of this myself. But, I know of some who take their duplicity to an extent that I really can't stomach. Funny enough, when I'm left with the opportunity to confront them about it, I most likely will also opt for politeness and keep quiet about my grievances.
     
  2. daisymae

    daisymae Senior Member

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    Is this a "Do I look fat in these pants?" kind of thing?
     
  3. Hacker

    Hacker Vescere Bracis Meis

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    Ha!
     
  4. Dissident

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    No.


    Well, I guess on a very simple level it actually could be.
     
  5. happyhippyflower

    happyhippyflower Sucker Punch

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    This is too creepy for me. I was writing about this exact same thing last night. I understand completely so fuck off.
     
  6. moonshyne

    moonshyne Approved by the FDA

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    Consideration for other's feelings?
     
  7. Dissident

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    Its that exact reason of consideration that I'm criticizing. It's become a crutch of some sorts, something we convenientlly practise to avoid a level of truth.

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    whats wrong with insult? If its called for, why try to evade it? Doing so out of consideration isn't a reason, that just creates illusion.
     
  8. happyhippyflower

    happyhippyflower Sucker Punch

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    Marry me. Now.
     
  9. moonshyne

    moonshyne Approved by the FDA

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    Maybe it's a crutch for some, but I think it's alot better than those people who don't hold back at all, and end up having nothing to say unless it's negative...OR the people who tend to believe their personal opinions are the only "truth" that matters.

    I guess it really just depends on the situation.
     
  10. Dissident

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    Swooning over my intellect and social commentary?
     
  11. Dissident

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    It depends on the situation to an exent I suppose, minor and major situations, like the minor example diasymae used (but, for the record, if someone's ass did look fat in their pants, I'd tell them so)

    But

    Personally, I would prefer the raw truth even if it was relentlessly negative.

    Now, those who believe their opinions are the definitive truth....well, thats a whole other topic that I should start another thread on.
     
  12. hippypaul

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    Well there is the concept of everybody exchanging views and perhaps learning a little something in the process. That has always been sort of a goal of mine.
     
  13. Dissident

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    What good are their views if they are predicated on bullshit?
     
  14. nawcom

    nawcom Ass Phreaker

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    People can't handle the truth. Sometimes we can'y even handle the truth ourselves so really the bullshit is on ourselves not the other person, we can't control other people.
     
  15. Hacker

    Hacker Vescere Bracis Meis

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    No, it's the phermones...
     
  16. moonshyne

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    I might not think those pants make your ass look fat, and if you like your ass-enlarging pants, then why should anyone else's opinion even matter? :p
     
  17. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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    multiple posts:|
     
  18. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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    Im big on politeness. Its healthy. It shows that when you meet a stranger or someone you dont know so well you are conscious of the fact that theyre a precious, valuable human being, just like you. Once you get into deep relationships with people you begin to build up trust and things...that person KNOWS you respect them, so its acceptable to insult or criticise.

    What i dont like is all this fake "Oh, merry christmas! God bless you! Oooh how are you doing then?" crap you sometimes get from people you barely know. Thats unacceptable. Theyve broken into your personal zone before you properly know them, which is wrong.

    Also, these people who randomly tap you on the shoulder in the street(believe me, i get them almost every day here. Im in one of those unbearable English mining towns where everyones related) without even saying "excuse me"....then start spitting out their incomprehsible guttural dialect and expect you to give them a response. At this point i usually pretend to be foreign, and they go away.

    But no politeness is a necessity i think. Until you know someone properly there should be social boundaries...you should respect their need for space, not stand too close to them, and use manners when speaking, to show that youre not a threat and that you intend to be friendly. Not many things annoy me more than inconsiderate gits ive never even seen before who stand within inches of me, heavy breathing down my neck and smelling, and randomly start babbling.

    Phew, rant over.
    Xx
     
  19. daisymae

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    It's not necessary to say all that you think. Unless someone asks for your opinion, keep it.
     
  20. mystical_shroom

    mystical_shroom acerbic

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    I'm going to be honest here and say politeness isnt my strong quailty, in fact i dont even think the quality in me exsists :D
     

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