What you need to know about the new Detainee Bill

Shane99X · Sep 30, 2006

How many freedoms did we lose?

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/28/washington/29detaincnd.html?_r=2&hp&ex=1159502400&en=f804341525b03650&ei=5094&partner=homepage&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

The legislation broadens the definition of enemy combatants beyond the traditional definition used in wartime, to include noncitizens living legally in this country as well as those in foreign countries, and also anyone determined to be an enemy combatant under criteria defined by the president or secretary of defense.

It strips detainees being held at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, of a habeas right to challenge their detention in court, relying instead on procedures known as combatant status review trials, which have looser rules of evidence than the courts.

It allows evidence seized in this country or abroad to be taken without a search warrant. It bars evidence obtained by cruel and inhumane treatment, except that obtained before Dec, 30, 2005, when Congress enacted the Detainee Treatment Act. Democrats charged that the date was set conveniently after the worst abuses at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq and at Guantánamo Bay.

The legislation establishes several “grave breaches” of Common Article Three of the Geneva Conventions that are felonies under the War Crimes Act, including torture, rape, murder and any act intended to cause “serious” physical or mental pain or suffering.

It leaves to the president the definition of specific interrogation techniques and rules barring any techniques that do not rise to the level of grave breaches.
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not only that but:

And even some Republicans who said voted for the bill said they expected the Supreme Court to strike down the legislation because of the habeas corpus provision, ultimately sending the legislation right back to Congress.

“We should have done it right, because we’re going to have to do it again,” said Senator Gordon Smith, a Republican from Oregon, who had voted to strike the habeas corpus provision, yet supported the bill.
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In other words, they've just passed a bill that they KNOW and are ADMITTING is unconstitutional.

Holy shit.

Green · Sep 30, 2006

Wave goodbye to Habeus Corpus. They are taking a shit on our Constitutional rights. They are also trying to destroy the independent judiciary. Then there will be a tyranny of the majority, well, a tyranny of the rich and their sheep.

guy · Sep 30, 2006

the fall of the american republic

heeh2 · Oct 1, 2006

this is what happens when 50% of the country doesnt vote.....

underground04 · Oct 1, 2006

okay i read the bill and found the part about the president and secretary of defense being able to declare anyone an unlawful enemy combatant, the part about detainees not being allowed habeas corpus but i cant find the part about the president defining interrogation techniques

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c109:3:./temp/~c109p7bLdQ

Piney · Oct 1, 2006

Shane99X said:

How many freedoms did we lose?
Holy shit.
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Is Weed illegal all of a sudden ? :H

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