What rcs are legal in China?

What rcs are currently legal for sale in China? Anyone have a list? I hope this info will help me eliminate scammers from possible suppliers I am looking into. Some scammers are obvious and offer chems that I know to be illegal. pretty new to the rc scene but have grown fond of a few of the chemicals available. I have been burned twice now by scammers so I'm trying to dig alot deeper. Just tired of paying high black market prices for powders of questionable quality.

 

Had one company tell me that some of the products they offer are indeed illegal there (China), but they export them only....Thats horse shit right? I asked about their bad reviews and people never getting packages and haven't heard back.

I'm currently trying to contact a couple Chinese syth. companies but haven't had much luck. They seem waaay more legit than most "drug peddlers" I've seen and they offer many many chemicals, not just ones that get u high. Any advice on communicating with these companies?

They don't show up on safeorscam. Actualy I've entered maybe a dozen urls that didnt have any info into safeorscam, even a couple that I know are scams.

 

Ive never used any suppliers that aren't on safeorscam to be on the safe side. Personally I've never been a gambler. As far as whats legal & on sale in China, your guess would be as good as mine. I would think a bing search would do the trick tho.

 

search engine results have been incosistant. I'm just new to this scene and its proving frustrating trying to find a supplier. been burned twice. I wish people "in the know" weren't so guarded. Tired of me and my friends having to pay street prices for street quality chems that i know can be had pure, at reasonable if not wholesale prices. If these local kids flooding the streets with rcs sold as whatever drug they say can get these chemicals why am I having so much trouble?

 

because you're not trying hard enough no other way around it.

first, accept that you will be burned in the process. it will happen. second, learn the criminal code as it pertains to drugs for your country. nobody is going to do this homework for you. you need need to know this for YOU. so when chinese police break down your door you aren't confused about why. finally if something has no reviews on safeorscam it is not worth trying, most likely a scam. write it down somewhere and keep checking back. get a list of chems you are interested in, find out if they are scheduled in your country, then get cracking on google and keep trying different search strings.

this is hard, tedious work man, and the risk is HUGE. that's why people are guarded. frankly i don't feel completely comfortable posting even THIS advice but i'll go out on a limb and assume you are just a frustrated civilian.

 

Well if you have made it as far as having an account with safeorscam you are on the right path. Most of my sources have been the product of internet searches & are definitely not in China. You must understand why most ppl are so guarded on this subject.

 

The best vendor I'm aware of is not Asian or on SafeOrScam, (at least not under the alias I know them by, they have gone by many many names over the years and recycle their customer base every now and then). I believe really only if you're looking for cheap chems of questionable quality, illegal chemicals, or chemicals in bulk (kilograms), these are the only times Chinese companies are used. Most I know of do not check laws and synth chemicals illegal in the USA, yet will still ship there.

If it has 5+ ratings on SafeOrScam RECENTLY (last year or so) that are good, then you have almost positively found a good source until the day they unexpectedly go down. I've never been scammed, and most companies aren't out to scam you. Check the terms of delivery. Vendors using registered airmail and a re-shipment guarantee if it doesn't arrive are almost always legit. While Paypal is a shitty payment method, the fact some companies use it may vouch for them, as Paypal offers a dispute option where you can get a full refund if scammed.

and while we're on the subject of the RC scene being in a veil of secrecy, I actually feel as if it is way too open these days. too much about the $$$ and "legal highs" (the term makes me fucking tremble)

 

Thanks for the replies guys. I guess I'm just not trying hard enough. I understand why people are hesitant to help. I guess I will just keep plugging away. The quick buck local rc dealers have just soured me to buying some compounds that i really enjoy. I refuse to buy from these kids anymore. If i do finaly find a supply I won't want to give it up either.

thanks for all advice. any more help is appreciated. the hunt continues!:2thumbsup:

 

This is an official list of all scheduled drugs in mainland China as of 2005. I got it from an all-Chinese government website, so you can rely on it. The list has expanded a bit since (e.g. 4-HO-MET appears to have been added), but it is still almost identical regarding psychedelic drugs. There is currently no "analogue act" and to my knowledge there are no plans for such in the near future.

http://law.pharmnet.com.cn/topic/detail_749.html

 

EZ, why limit yourself to China?

I don't use any vendors from there, just Euro/North American. Shipping is much easier that way.

 

Agreed.

Also nothing against OP but i fucking hate all of the attention RCs have been getting in the last year or two. I mean i KNOW its inevitable that some attention will be brought up by the news and media and whatnot. I STILL to this day. have a hard time sometimes finding honest, reliable sources for RCs despite having been inthe scene for a while now. There SHOULD be a bit of secrecy and people SHOULD be guarded about sharing information with others, ESPECIALLY those just coming on a forum or just meeting in person about how, where, etc to access these chems. We are losing them quicker than ever.

 

I'd go with eeastern European vendors. UK and USA have mostly the vendors who have messed the scene up with "bath salts" and "legal highs". Some good from the USA but they'll be shut down at some point and you better hope they're good aboout how they store personal records. They're more reliable, trustworhy, professional, and their labs tend to pump out better product in east Europe. (If their lab is actually locate in Europe, there a lot who still get it from China). The Chinese you really can't guarantee that it will arrive and they tend to package it horribly (unlabeled, without MS/DS sheets, or the wrong chemical entirely). Oh yeah Chinese labs are notorious for sending the wrong product and fucking people up.

If this list is correct, I am unaware of a single law-abiding Chinese company hah

 

The list is correct but slightly dated. I have the 2007 list as well. That one contains only three or four additional entries. The latest one adds yet another three or so, but that's about it.

Regarding law-abiding companies, you are not dealing with the right people. As a non-Chinese resident of mainland China for the past 10+ years, I can tell you that proper chemical companies don't mess around when it comes to scheduled drugs. The penalties are much too steep for that (i.e. very long or permanent prison sentences for violations that we might not consider particularly significant, or even death). Packaging, labeling, etc. are also far better with such companies.

 

good luck, I was fooled twice and decided to stay local. Was told, (PROMISED) that I was getting Adderal and got sugar pills.