What is your "freak flag"?

Discussion in 'Hippies' started by BlueLightRain, Jun 22, 2012.

  1. BlueLightRain

    BlueLightRain Member

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    Is your hair down past your ass?
    Is the back end of your car covered in bumper stickers?
    Dreadlocks?
    Tattoos or piercings?
    Do you wear unique clothing?
    What is your "freak flag" and why is it important to you? I'm sure there are all kinds of ways that you all express yourselves. let's see what they are! Mine are my dreadlocks mainly. I like them because the kinds of people that are disgusted by them are most likely not worth getting to know. If people accept the way I am, they are more worthwhile to me.
     
  2. Scorpio Kenny

    Scorpio Kenny Church of the Good Earth - ArchBishop

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    Not to me.

    "…they are more worthwhile to me." It's all about you?

    This is why I don't have Dreadlocks. They are white kid ripoffs of another culture. In other word, Dreadlocks are phony.

    Forgive me. I care mostly about the people who are least worthwhile to me.
     
  3. GLENGLEN

    GLENGLEN Banned

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    Fulltime Barefooter For Over 6 Years...:).

    Dreadlocks Will Be 3 In August...:).



    Cheers Glen.
     
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  5. RooRshack

    RooRshack On Sabbatical

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    Most of the above, and then plenty more.

    Not a flag. I don't care about making some sort of statement about who I am-I care that people accept me, but I'm not making some sort of hurdle of acceptance for them to jump over, whitch is sort of how I view the OP's sentiment. Honestly, you make it sound really poserish to just be who you feel like.

    People think all sorts of things about dreadlocks, for instance-and many of them are simply mislead and need education that YOU need to give them. If you judge people like that, you're doing exactly what you don't like them doing to you.

    also, WHEN can we see pictures of you, GLEN?
     
  6. BlueLightRain

    BlueLightRain Member

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    ...just trying to make friendly conversation.
     
  7. GLENGLEN

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    Bulldust...[​IMG]...What Other Culture ??? Dreadlocks Have Been Around Since

    Biblical Times, In Every Culture, Creed And Colour On This Planet.

    I Spent Weeks Researching Locks Before I Decided To Go Natural, And

    I Found People From 3 Years Old, To 108 Sporting Dreads.



    Cheers Glen.
     
  8. RooRshack

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    Yeah, pretty sure viking raiders totally just wanted to be rastas.

    Anyway, when I don't comb my hair, it's just a ripoff of........ other people who don't comb their hair.

    Just helping out, by providing an alternate point of view ;)
     
  9. Scorpio Kenny

    Scorpio Kenny Church of the Good Earth - ArchBishop

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    Culture? Rastifari. What else is there for white kids to rip off?
     
  10. GLENGLEN

    GLENGLEN Banned

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    I Read That The Rastifari Adopted Dreadlocks In 1935, That's A Long Way

    From Biblical Times...[​IMG].



    Cheers Glen.
     
  11. BlueLightRain

    BlueLightRain Member

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    you're right, roor. It's hard at times to get the tone of something you read on the internet. I wasn't trying to "make it all about me" like Kenny implied, but one of the many reasons I like my dreads is because it starts conversation. I usually get positive comments and the occasional "do you wash them?". I didn't mean "what is the thing you flaunt to get attention" I just wanted to see what people thought made them unique or what they do to express themselves.
     
  12. RooRshack

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    Well I think GLEN just mentioned biblical peoples..... I mentioned vikings..... he mentioned EVERY culture, which is pretty accurate.....

    Those that I specifically know of include:

    Just about everyone in europe, including
    Vikings (again)
    Germanic peoples
    Celtic peoples
    Nordic peoples
    All of them somewhat linked, but having MANY languages, artistic styles, gods, religions, customs, and all that jazz..... and NONE of them are the least bit black, in fact some are pretty much albino.

    Aincient chinese and related people, though only to some degree. Visible, I think, in aincient tombs and art. They also did all manner of braids and other things that you would consider rasta and/or black.

    All sorts of cultures from india, and the middle/near east, including biblical peoples (on different factions, no less, I believe) such as main charactars like samson, or nazarites (described in numbers:6, and considered the basis for rasta locks, though I think that was a justification they found later). In persia or somewhere therebouts I BELIEVE the "hashishins" had locks.

    Locks where obviously very important to whoever came up with samson and his story, because they seem to be used to symbolize his testicles..... So anyway, that's jews with locks.

    Africa has lots of locks, formed with many methods-in the age before back-combing with flea combs, people with strait hair would have had neglect locks, but africans seem to have had many methods, from braiding to mud to neglect, and africa obviously has many distinct cultures, which are actually (see above) NOT the root of rasta locks.

    America-not so common, but there are at least some examples of south or central american religious leaders with locks, and I think the practice existed throughout the americas among shaman and the like, to some degree.

    Possibly some in the pacific, I really don't know-it would not suprise me in the least.

    So WHY are you giving all the credit to an obnoxious black supremacist movement? I understand their reasons, and now there are some ligitimately interesting religious rasta movements and people, but they do NOT lay legitimate claim to all locks, and kids who put wax in their hair and cut it off a week later are NOT repersentitive of modern people with locks, in general. They're sure not repersentitive of me.....
     
  13. walsh

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    People still care about fitting into their cultural heritage? Wow.
     
  14. TheGhost

    TheGhost Auuhhhhmm ...

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    Fortunately I don't do flags.
     
  15. Scorpio Kenny

    Scorpio Kenny Church of the Good Earth - ArchBishop

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    RooRshack

    "What is your "freak flag" and why is it important to you? I'm sure there are all kinds of ways that you all express yourselves. let's see what they are! Mine are my dreadlocks mainly. I like them because the kinds of people that are disgusted by them are most likely not worth getting to know. If people accept the way I am, they are more worthwhile to me."

    I am not all about putting up walls.
    "Another brick in the wall" — Pink Floyd.
    I'm about tearing down walls.
    "Tear down the Walls, MF" — Jefferson Airplane.

    I'm referring to this. This is the message that this person is laying out as a premise for having a "Freak Flag".

    The Topic is "Freak Flag".


    I ague with the permiss.
    The permiss for having a freak flag.

    The very team "Freak Flag" denotes being a Freak. Period. That is all that it means. Nothing more and nothing less.

    The colloquial, Freak, from which Freak Flag is derived, is a '60, '70 term. The team has nothing to do with biblical freaks. However, I am not going to discount the vikings, here. LOL

    My point is that to use the term with any hope of using it correctly, one must first have and share for the sake of discussion, what the word freak means in the context of the team.

    Defining '60, '70 what is a freak?

    ____________________________________________________

    You WIN! I give you the argument that no person in the United Kingdom and in the United States has dreadlocks because of Bob Marley and Jamaican Music and Pot. They all do that because they all saw the photographs of Adam and Eve on the Time magazine "Man of the Year" cover. You're right!

    I can't argue as to what self-serving suburban white kids do after the year of 1978. I do not lay any claim of being an expert on that. Their are so very many others here who happen to have that sort of thing down to an exact science. We'll let the experts speak to these things. Not I.
    LOL

    You win on that topic!
    LOL

    Cheers, Kenny
     
  16. Scorpio Kenny

    Scorpio Kenny Church of the Good Earth - ArchBishop

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    What's a Freak?
     
  17. Aerianne

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    When I was in high school 1973 - 1978, the Freaks were the pot-smoking, other drug-doing, long-haired, rebels.
     
  18. Manservant Hecubus

    Manservant Hecubus Master of Funk and Evil

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    In the 60-70's context, it would be anyone that does not look or behave the 'norm' or uphold status quo with regards to how they look or act relative to the society they belong to.

    My dreads have nothing to do with Rastafari. In fact Rastas turned me off of dreads for a very very long time and I had an attitude similar to yours. It was when I started seeing historical images of my own culture did I feel better about them. Education goes a long way. It was when I realized that how I do my hair has nothing to do with anybody's culture but what I want to do with my own body and fuck anyone who tells me different, I started my dreads. Never looking back. And anyone who assumes anything different about the inspiration behind what is just fucking hair, can take it in their ear.

    In my five years locked, the only people that I've encountered that have cultural issues with whitey having dreads have been white themselves.
     
  19. Scorpio Kenny

    Scorpio Kenny Church of the Good Earth - ArchBishop

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    1966 – 1969. Freak were people who were apart from straight people. Other and beyond. Due to a different Look, they were sometimes call freaks by straight people, and over time referred to themselves as freaks. (3 years) It was in fact the merry pranksters who were some of the first to overtly go out of their way to jointly run around looking "outlandish" and acting "outlandish" for the specific purpose of bending peoples minds. (Which came to be known as Freaking them out.)

    Freaks were non nonconformist who were experimenting with how to be, and how to live there life. Obviously straight society was not the answer. Freaks actually were different. In many ways of life and and being. True. Most actually did look different. But that wasn't the central reason. Most were different!

    Most may also have this going on as well:
    "The Freaks were the pot-smoking, other drug-doing, long-haired, rebels."

    But any jerk can do that.

    The people who were originally Freaks, were that because they had something different going on. It was a whole new thing.

    To try to limit freaks to "The Freaks were the pot-smoking, other drug-doing, long-haired, rebels." is to say that they are all intermediate school drop outs who are all just waste of time looser stoners who are worthless.

    Original freaks were generally thinkers, sophisticates, intellectuals and mostly college and university graduates. Many were Existentialist philosophers.

    The term "HEAD" and STONER" are polar opposites. Yet they may both smoke pot.
     
  20. The Imaginary Being

    The Imaginary Being PAIN IN ASS Lifetime Supporter

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    and now all the bullies are those people.

    people who gave me hell

    are 'alternative' and hippy now it is trendy.

    "hey bro... yeah bro how's it going??"

    get fucked.
     

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