What is to be done about Boko Haram?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by cass_jenner, May 13, 2014.

  1. cass_jenner

    cass_jenner Member

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    Is there any political mileage to be made here? I am outraged that a bunch of miltant misogynistic islamic shits can get away with kidnapping a bunch of schoolgirls, and then try to horse trade with them. Interesting that Israeli anti terrorist experts have joined the hunt to find them. I imagine that those guys do not mess about so can we look forward to the girls being found and freed?
    I know that Michelle Obama has taken a personal interest in the case. Just how far will governments go here? I feel that once the girls are freed there will be a mass outbreak of back pedaling and murmers of "Boko Haram are not really an international problem -- leave it to the Nigerians"
    I hope not. I would love to see every single of one these maniacs buried up to their necks in the desert, with no refreshment other than being pissed on by camels every so often.
    And then left to the buzzards.
     
  2. eggsprog

    eggsprog anti gang marriage HipForums Supporter

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    The US is sharing aerial surveillance with the Nigerians. I kind of half-expect to see a US raid in the near future. We will see.
     
  3. TheGhost

    TheGhost Auuhhhhmm ...

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    Why political? You think you can TALK to these guys?
     
  4. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    No but they are your friend if you want to start and underage prostitution ring.
    Money money moneeey...is the culprit.
     
  5. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    The US will find any excuse it can to intervene in something where there is the potential for political gain. The US government could not care less about those girls, but it will exploit the situation for its own agenda. Our government has killed who knows how many children over the years in the Middle East, yet we're supposed to believe our government cares only about saving these girls' lives. I don't buy it for a minute.
     
  6. storch

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    Hear hear!
     
  7. thedope

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    Well you answer the question about political mileage but you don't address the extent of anyone's caring beyond that.
     
  8. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    the gangs all here
     
  9. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    cept for dave
     
  10. thedope

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    Money will be culpable in what is done, be it the price of jet fuel or whatever. It is about protecting investment, capital as well as personal.
     
  11. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    They are essentially terrorists so I guess treat them as such, or as a criminal organisation. But I agree with Willy, until those kids are freed:

    Not sure why the U.S. in particular should be doing anything by the way. It should be a shared international effort carried out by the therefor intended organisations.
     
  12. cass_jenner

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    Indeed, the girls safety is paramount. Get them out and then do what needs to be done. Of course the US is involved - they are involved in everything and want to be seen to be Captain America to the rescue as usual. I mean, they did such a bang-on job in Afghanistan and elsewhere why not?
    What I find odd is that they are looking for them with helicopters? These asshats are not savages - they behave like them of course - but they have all the tools and communications that everyone else does. What is up with our counter terrorism and intelligence people that a bunch of dirt nibblers like these cannot be tracked down?
     
  13. eggsprog

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    The US is involved because they most likely have the most people and equipment in the area and are able to respond the most quickly. They are also sharing satellite imaging with the Nigerian government.
     
  14. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    the US should stay out of this. I believe it is merely an excuse to get into africa, as Obama has killed more Muslim Girls, than this monster ever could.
     
  15. eggsprog

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    This is a militia, not a single person. The US is already in Africa, which is why they were able to provide support so quickly. Whether the reasons for them being in Africa are legitimate or not (they aren't), I see no harm in the US using resources to help the Nigerian military find these girls.

    I read a story today about a Nigerian village that pre-emptively attacked and arrested a bunch of fighters who they believed were preparing for an assault on their town.
     
  16. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    It doesn't matter if it was the Russians; it has nothing to do with america, and there's no Constitutional justification for military intervention..


    you need to be careful about US Interventionalism. they always find Humanitarian reasons for wars. Let's not forget the propaganda pushed against Gaddafi, which became an excuse to bomb him, before america knew what was going on..

    and these are the typical liberal defenses that i talk about. obama and government executes innocent people all the time, yet, it is still assumed that it is for the 'greater good' to have this racket on the use of force, and it is much more lethal and poisonous for society, than the 'evil' people, they allegedly 'protect' the world from.

    it is the people who need protection from these industrial war mongers, but, government will never again defend the people, because the whole idea of government, is that some other person, or, a group of people, has control over my life. and, I think this is ideological, and actually needs to bend the truth in order to justify it.

    IE You say I see the world in black and white, cause we should be forced to pay, for being born within the arbitrary lines of this country, and thusly, my life and a large percentage of my earnings, belongs to the federal oligarch. that is the only way to justify how government has moral authority over my body. Otherwise, I would be able to decide what I want to ingest as an independent human being, and dance in the memorial of our founders. Government believes it has authority over us, and that is imbedded in every aspect of government, from the police to the president.

    So, no. My ideals are not ideological; It is ideological to give all the power and moral authority of individuals to a very limited amount of elites. Obama is no more Right or Just than I am, nor, did I sign any contract, stating that I wish to be part of this so-called "collective," or the 'services' they offer.


    Furthermore, it is my personal opinion, that government service is expensive, shotty and, time-consuming. Not to mention that mostly all these government programs further the wealth of the corporate state, while shrinking the middle class, and terrorizing the poor, with a racist war on drugs. It's not that I see the world in black and white, I'm just smart enough to realize that government comes as one big forceful package, or not at all. Personally, i believe there are non-violent ways to do anything/everything that the government does today, through violence.
     
  17. cass_jenner

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    Another attack by these bastards. Its incredible how powerless the security forces of Africa's biggest economy and leading oil producer are to protect civilians from Boko Haram.
    How come these asshats are better armed and equipped than the government? Who s supplying them? And what is the govnment doing with all their oil money?
     
  18. eggsprog

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    I say that I see no harm in the US using planes to try to find militants who have kidnapped children, and you respond with this...
     
  19. monkjr

    monkjr Senior Member

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    The only difference is that Nigeria, asked for USA help.

    On that technicality, it is different, because we were invited, we did not impose.

    I'm not saying I'm not wary of how this can all go sour though, it's certainly a delicate situation.
     

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