What is Conservatism?

With the declining education, poor public school systems and lack of funding, it seems like conservatism is gaining huge ground. Therefore, I think Conservatism dwells on the ignorance of the masses.

 

I disagree with the author is analyze of Marxism and unions as useless. However, if liberals want to distant themselves from Marxism, then that is understandable.

 

True conservatism is the way the government should be run:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_conservatism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism

 

If everybody was conservative then america would never have existed as a nation.

 

What? That makes no sense, you can be conservative but fight to try to free your land from a mother country you feel as no right to control you, I'd say the people in the CSA were definitly more conservative then their northern counter-parts, and I think the 400,000 dead there show they were willing to fight to be their own nation.

 

No, congress during independence were mostly conservative and waited till the last minute when america was winning, to declare independence. Washington was a conservative who reluctantly took military command.


South was conservative, that's why they were less keen that the north on american independance. And yes, we can see how CSA conservatism shows how backward they were compared to the north.

 

Actually we decalred independence in 1776 when only 2 battles had really happend(one of which we lost). And Washington was not shy of the job, he attended the second continental congress in 1775 in his full military uniform(the only delegate to do so, and was voted unanimously to lead the army by that congress)

And in the revolution the biggest concentration of loyalist were in NYC and Long Island, the only place that came close was the fact Britain managed to establish a loyalist government in Georgia. I can go to the war of 1812 too when it was the New England states that wanted not to fight for commerical reasons.

 

You've mixed Loyalism with conservatism. Conservatism is status quo, don't rock the boat. Loyalists were active supporters of the Brittish. 1/3 of colonial americans were loyalist, 1/3 patriots and the other 1/3 waited to see what would happen i.e the conservatives.

Radicalism was the forefront for American independance.

 

No, you're the one who mxied them up because you said if everyone was conservative our country wouldn't exist, I'm showing otherwise. Conservative does not mean status quo, that's a horrible misconception, do you think if Hillary Clinton wins in 2008, after a term of her conservatives are going to want to keep the status quo? And conservatives didn't wait to see what would happen, many founding fathers were conservatives.

 

Right wingers blow, and have fucked me over on a regular basis. I'll fuckin slap an aristocrat, how can anyone who isn't filthy rich support conservatives in america, I don't get it.

 

I no longer consider myself a conservative because to me the word has become synonymous with pro-war and interventionism, sexual and moral prudery, neoconservatism (putting Israel's interests above America's), and with obnoxious radio talk-show hosts.

The Founding Fathers of America likely would not identify with today's conservatives. Some were Deists who opposed mixing church and state, and had no conception of America as a "Christian" nation.

 

From your sig pic, it's a little hard to believe you were ever a conservative.

 

"Conservative" is just a label. Often people join groups because it is human nature to join a group and establish an identity. They might just feel that a group will enhance their interests.

Truth is, if you saw me in person you'd never think I sympathize with the counterculture. I have to cover it up at my corporate job (I now work for a Fortune 100 company). My demeanor is conservative in some ways, regardless.

All groups seem to have elements of absurdity that come from mob behavior when they reach a critical mass. Just think of the right-wing and their hawkishness over the war in Iraq, despite the fact that it is based on lies. Just look at the corruption of the liberal left, with political correctness. Look at the communists, with their inefficiency, corruption and hierarchy. Look even at the hippie movement, which became corrupted when the wrong types were attracted to the movement based on media stereotypes and images, and the commercialization of the movement. Worst of them all, there are the neo-Nazis who wish to perfect the human or, more precisely, the "Aryan" race, yet the movement attracts the very worst elements, as you can see just by checking out their discussion forums.

So which political group has the truth? At least the hippies accept the folly of being human, and often will choose to withdraw from the life of conformity accepted by most people, and reflect more deeply about life.

The best thing for myself is to look out for myself, and none of the established groups are out for me. If it were up to the conservatives, we'd be out in the Middle East to defend oil fields against insurgents. If it were up to the liberals, we'd all be ideological clones with syrupy yet hollow thoughts. If it were up to the Nazis, we'd be foot soldiers fighting for someone else's interests. If it were up to the communists, our property would be seized by state bureaucrats for their own personal use.

 

They have the power to form people's views.

Conservatives have learned to appeal to people's religious beliefs and insecurities easily.

The number one news channel in America is Fox. The school system is anti liberal.

 

The school system is anti-liberal? What friggen country are you living in?

And actually CNN still has a greater percent of viewers then FOX does, though the gap has closed in the past couple of years.

 

a conservative is someone who puts what they believe to be tradition ahead of what they believe to be morality

a libral is someone who puts what they believe to be morality ahead of what they believe to be tradition.

both are equaly capable of being mistaken on both counts, and frequently are.

(and i'd rather be mistaken for a libral then a conservative. not because i want to be a saint. i don't. but because the kind of world we all have to live in has a lot to do with how happy individual people can be in their own lives and experiences)

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A conservative is someone who’s in touch with reality…

 

ROFL, sure buddy.

 

Conservatives are quite adept at brainwashing due to the fact that their appeal is mostly emotional. Most people live and act emotionally because most people don't or can't think for themselves.

When it comes down to it, emotional appeal will usually win out over intellectual appeal.

 

Yes those who don't think and the filthy rich I should have said lol.