what is a legit reason for organic chemistry??

so maybe this is a stupid question. but a lot of people ask how to make lsd, and a lot of people reply "if you're really serious, go to college and get a degree in organic chemistry". well, that's a big commitment, what would a person tell their friends and family they were doing it for? i mean, if you're the kind of person devoting your life to making lsd, you're *probably* not the kind of person to pursue a legitimate career in the pharmaceutical industry. and even if the people around you aren't aware of your lsd use specifically, if they know you at all they're probably aware of this...

i'm just curious, i'm probably not going to pursue this at all . and i'm not just saying that to "throw them off the scent", heh

but i am curious...
those of you who are working towards getting a organic chemistry degree or who have one, what do you tell people?

 

becoming a chemist? i dont know that one makes sense doesnt it?! btw youll never make lsd. ever. precursors are impossible =)

 

i didn't say i wanted to try...

but i don't think that's a very good attitude

 

i would love to go into organic chemistry...i think its interesting, as well as the added bonus of having the sweet, sweet knowledge of how to make lsd. and i betcha if you worked long enough at it you could make it.

mmm..you could 'test' the quality and standard of products that aren't on the market yet. you could say that you just really love chemistry and want to pursue it and then stay at the university to teach and stuff (you could be a crazy old chemistry professor that makes lsd in the lab at night and sells it to the children by day...)

 

why is there still lsd in pretty much every part of the world then? theres a shortage in acid, right? but theres still acid going around. youd just have to be some big shot with a blackmarket connection for the precursors. not impossible just highly improbable that someone has the drive, the wallet, the lab, and the dedacation

 

Other then the pharmaceutical industry, organic chemists could work for any number of industries that uses organic compounds, anything from the petroleum, plastics, any industry that make things from plants or animals, fertilizers, biotechnology, raw chemicals, material sciences, etc, pretty much any place that uses, makes or researches, etc, carbon containing molecules, could employ an organic chemist.

 

Thats what people proboly said to albert hoffman a million times and look at him he made lsd

 

Precursors impossible? dont think so, you would only need a very small amount in comparison with other drugs and you would be able to make tons of lsd

 

Uhh... The precursors are only impossible because of what they are known to make (and is now illegal and hard to find). To the guy saying they are absolutely impossible - no, you can still use the precursors if you have a legitamate reason and have a degree and what not.

Hoffman had a steady supply as he was only originally fucking around with it to make something similar to aspirin I believe. He stumbled onto it by accident, I mean he was aiming to make it, just didn't know what it would do specifically (or was unexpected). From what I've read anyway..

And to the main topic.. organic chemistry is everywhere. I'm sure you'd be needed in an area that makes pills or whatever, and people never stop getting sick.. so cures will probably always be being founded and needed to be created.. Most organic chemists make mad loot too, whether its with making LSd or not. At least what my science teacher said, lol

 

You make drugs, that save lives as a biochemist thats THE legit reason... Are you like 10 or something if you couldnt figure that out?

 

hey you don't have to be a jackass you know, it's really ugly.

 

I am a chemist.....just got my Ph.D in Bioinorganic chemistry. I have a vast knowledge of organic chemistry.....and it is alot of fun to know the synthesis of most drugs. I actually make anticancer drugs (Cisplatin). The synthesis of almost every drug is published in journals like American Chemical society. The point of getting a degree is so you can understand how to read the journal, most people don't understand the background chemistry. BTW...LSD can be made in many ways, but starting from the indole ring brings up red flags.....so just start with something else.

 

thank you for answering.

i, honest to god, have no intention or even much interest in making lsd. i do have an interest in chemistry which came about *through* my initial interest in lsd. the original reason for this thread was to see what those who are learning organic chemistry to someday make lsd say (to friends and family and whoever) is their motive, because i really do want to know.

it just seems random for some (sorry to stereotype) stoner hippie kid to suddenly say, "yeah, mom, i've decided to go to college for years to become a chemist".

i think it's interesting enough just to pour your life into for it's own sake, but i don't know.

hm. thank you all for helping me .

 

I got into chemistry when i was a kid. Instead of a tea set I got a chemistry kit and tried various combinations to see how many 'pops' and 'bangs' I could make. I was hooked. Its a shame that most chemistry sets these days are so tame in comparisan.

 

http://www.orgsyn.org

(excellent site)

was into chem since I was in diapers... mixing bathroom chems in the toilet, much to my grandmother's dismay.

 

im a 3rd year med school student, but undergrad i majored in biology with a minor in biochem (molegen), but like the person above i also have a vast knowledge of organic chemistry. my focus is to become a physician but with a large amount of research knowledge. people do go to school for these things.

ps: the only reason i want to be adoctor though is to see people naked.

 

bio"inorganic" chem? bullshit. You "make" cisplatin? More bullshit. Go back to your Gilbert Chemistry.

 

the best part of organic chem is applying it (duh). glassware is sculped art, and mastering techniques are essential. it's like being a master artist, or better yet, a chef.

but nowadays, analytical techniques and supramolecular/nanoscale R&D is in high demand.

 

physician doing research? heh, dubious... get ready to write 'scripts and carry a blackberry/pager. med school isn't exactly R&D (which is what you should've gotten into, if you're into research)

 

i should have phrased this differently, eventually later on in life - many labs employ physicians during the testing phases, thats what i mean i eventually want to get into. i dont want to be the one actually forging the synthesis part, i want to part of the research itself. this is what im aiming for down the lines, hence the reason i went to medschool. i kind of butchered that the first time around