What if shrooms were the center of the hippy counterculture instead of lsd?

Ok so obviously lsd was the psychedelic of choice during the 60s and the Haight-Ashbury of the hippy movement and the like used acid much more widely. But what do you think would have happened if it was shrooms that was the psychedelic of choice in this era? What if for example if Ken Kesey spread shrooms around in place of acid and hoasted shrooms tests much like the acid tests as well as shroom parties instead? Shrooms was used during this time obviously but not as widely as acid....and acid was promoted more by the main counterculture figures. But what if shrooms were promoted more in its place? Do you think the hippy movement would have flourished more or less? Do you you think shrooms would have promoted better trip experiences than acid in the masses of young people looking for the psychedelic experience or worse trip experiences?

I'm thinking shrooms could have produced more spiritual-type experiences....but I doubt it would be considered less mind bending so to speak (just different). But perhaps many people wouldn't have turned on as much since shrooms do produce body discomfort in some users....obviously acid has much less of a body load.

 

mushrooms don't open your mind to your life . . . they just open your mind period. they are far too arcane and bizzare to ever be a part of a coherent culture message in my opinion, other than something like 'open your mind'. Look at the way they were used in history, virtually only for the shamans in most cultures. LSD can teach you how to be a better person in the context of your friends, family, job, education, sport, hobby, whatever; its very hands-on and about this world we live in.

shrooms i feel is about very very sacred and grand things, and it doesn't fit well into a counter-culture movement, because if there's one lesson from shrooms, its 'you are that', so it becomes a littler superfluous to do battle with what you are.

lsd has one foot in that world and one foot in this world, and so its able to shift a person into acting differently in this world.

thats how i see it and i hate talking about them in this way, as though we are making a laundry list of things they 'can' 'do' and things they 'cant' 'do'. So much is about who is taking them. so much is lost when you think of them as tools, even though that is the first step after thinking of them as 'drugs'. just a lot of people get stuck on the 'tool' aspect of them . . . they are so much more than hammers.

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LSD is very user friendly. The LSD says "eat me, I can show you." The shroom just sits there and hums a deep, ancient, primal tone.

 

shrooms gives you bizarre thoughts, while lsd gives you clarity of mind.. i think if hippies did more shrooms than acid, weird shit would happen

 

^Is the shit that already happens not weird shit in itself? Would shit be normal? Would shit be purple?

All this, and Andrew Rooney, up next on 60 minutes - *tick tick tick tick tick*

 

I can't say for sure since I've never dropped acid, but shrooms are out of this world. They kinda make you their bitch, and I've heard LSD is more controlled.

 

That's almost quote-worthy. :rofl:

 

i dont think much of anything at all would be different today as a result.

the context has more to do than which substance is used, in terms of the qualities of the experience and what one does with it.

 

LSD is better for insight into things pertaining to your life..
The mushroom fucking speaks.

A cultural symbiosis with it would be far more beneficial than a culture whos primary sacrament is lsd. However if you switched lsd with shrooms in the sixties i think people would probably have gotten wierded out by its alieness (alienness?) and not known what to do.

 

in the 60ies it was really hard to get shroomies unless you had a picking spot, or ya got your hands on sandoz psilly pills, people weren't up to home cultivation yet, mushies have a roof to crash into while acid doesn't.

also in the 60ies acid was legal, plentiful, potent and cheap.

them hippies ate all sorts of weird candy.

 

I don't think it woulda changed much, as of yet for me... I've done over 15 mushroom trips and over 50 acid trips and they both seem to affect me on a similar level so.. I don't see how there'd be a difference.

 

I agree. And dose amount really does matter in trying to compare the two.