What does salvia teach us?

Discussion in 'Salvia Divinorum' started by inthydreams911, May 26, 2009.

  1. inthydreams911

    inthydreams911 Senior Member

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    What do you think salvia teaches us?
     
  2. Smitty25

    Smitty25 Senior Member

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    That it's only fun if you enjoy fear? lol
     
  3. pr0ne420

    pr0ne420 Senior Member

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    Absolutly nothing and absolutly everything.
     
  4. lasttime

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    Salvia teaches us the power of our own imagination
     
  5. Serophile

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    As well as many things that our conscious imagination can't even grasp, much less invent.
     
  6. Steele

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    whatever it wants to, however it wants to, even if it makes you crap yourself, or makes it so you're deathly afraid of the sidewalk. ( last one caused by weed but it could happen on salvia )
     
  7. NNDimethyltryptaDream

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    It teaches us that drugs are fucked up.
     
  8. [BDM]Starscream

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    well put...
     
  9. unreallife

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    That some drugs are fucking crazy, pack a hell of a punch, and you never know when new stuff will hit the market.

    Also after that toke PUT THE FUCKING BONG ASIDE, sit the fuck down, and hold on *the best you can* to your "reality".:D
     
  10. NNDimethyltryptaDream

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    You are your own reality, which you can infact completely fuck up and distort with these amazing, scary psychoactive substances.
     
  11. [BDM]Starscream

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    I would like to see more experiences posted :) Next best thing to watching someone slip into that hellish wonderland.
     
  12. Demure

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    hmmm here in the uk i once tried salvia i believe it was 100x not sure what that means but i had it when i was a bit smashed ( drink , coke and e's as well as weed lol) but all it did to me was made my clothes feel like razorblades i had no visual hallucinations, i did get really hot too. is this the same stuff, even a strong enough dosage and as its legal would someone tell me where i could find these strong solutions, would be much obliged
     
  13. [BDM]Starscream

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    not sure if they ship to england, or where they are based even but here ya go. http://www.salviazone.com
    I got the purple box called 'beyond' and tripped my fucking ass off
     
  14. NNDimethyltryptaDream

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    If i ever do it again, im sticking to lower strength shit, and going to attempt to enjoy that. Though, I have a feeling this is going to be one of those things that I dont like, yet will keep doing it for no real reason.
     
  15. another_dimension

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    What I learned so far, it being my first psychedelic, is that we only see one infinitesimally small portion of existence. For me, it felt as though I was looking through doors into different realities and possibilities.

    I've only low dosed so far though, so like I said I've only looked into those doors, I haven't gone through them. I'm scared to.
     
  16. DazedGypsy

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    As much as you're willing to learn.
     
  17. Stoned Philosopher

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    it is not impossible to sprout a windup clock out of your back and watch your friend become a toy soldier.
     
  18. LittleRaisin

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    It slaps you in the face with a big why.
    that is the question and it is also the answer
    grasp it if you dare
     
  19. TheDiplomat

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    salvia is like a turbo boost for the imagination...
     
  20. mokrit

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    - Here ya go :)

    Oh wow – I think Salvia has a LOT to teach – but she will only share
    her wisdom if treated with extreme respect. If you consider yourself on a
    kind of course of study and start slow and go in deeper and deeper, then it
    really isn’t scary and you get the most out of your salvia explorations.

    I've tried various strengths of extracts and also used the quidding method a
    few times.

    My absolute favorite method was to quid for about 45 minutes, and then
    once the salvia space has opened up to smoke a little 6.5x extract. That
    method took me back in time to when I was a child and showed me
    memories from my childhood that I never would have accessed otherwise –
    they were completely forgotten. And they were important memories that
    have now helped me understand aspects of myself that I was struggling with
    – so in that regard I have found salvia to be an important teacher about my
    own self. Better than therapy!

    I have also found salvia to be a profound teacher about the nature of time,
    being and reality. It raises a lot of questions, but certainly opens your mind
    to thinking about some pretty intense stuff. Here’s a trip report from my
    own journals that I think has some insight into some possible lessons that
    salvia has to teach:


    I went off into salvia space in a way that was much more controlled than I
    had previously experienced. My ego was gone, and I found myself in reality-
    space, floating at will to different manifested situations. This was quite
    enjoyable, similar to learning how to fly in a very lucid dream.

    There was also the knowledge that I could spend as much time as I wanted
    there, and still return to the present moment that I had just left when I was
    smoking the pipe. In fact, time was a totally non-existent thing.

    So I spent quite a long time in space. Until suddenly the overwhelming
    qualities of a different reality started to take hold. Out of nowhere, the
    quality of hard concrete started to manifest, and the quality of sirens, and
    the knowledge that I was lying on the ground and an ambulance was coming
    for me.

    And suddenly there was an overwhelming choice to be made… return to the
    reality of the one who had just smoked the pipe, or become the one who
    was lying on the ground with an ambulance arriving. I started wanting my
    normal life back at this point, and started trying to find my "normal" self
    again. I became aware that my heart was racing and I was freezing cold and
    had started shivering uncontrollably. It was a struggle to find my way back,
    but I opened my eyes back in the reality that I had been in when I smoked
    the pipe. It seems that if I had just relaxed and not fought it, I would have
    opened my eyes on a concrete ground with an ambulance arriving instead.
    That other reality would have manifested itself around me, and my old
    reality would have been a dream soon to be forgotten – maybe written off
    as a dream of the person who was lying unconscious on the concrete.

    After the experience, I could literally hear the sirens deep inside me for
    hours afterwards, like an echo of a time and space that was entirely real
    that I had just chosen not to participate in. I could also hear some dramatic
    house-type music that I had never heard before accompanied by some high
    soprano voices. I’m not sure what that was, but it was very audible and
    kept me awake.

    So, if I had relaxed and woken up as that other person, and if time is
    immaterial in salvia space, when would I have returned to my previous self?

    Maybe I could have woken as someone else entirely, and spent an entire
    lifetime as that person, maybe died and spent other lifetimes as other
    people... and STILL maybe eventually return to the self that had smoked the
    pipe - and only moments could have passed in my "normal" self's life while
    all of this happened! The thing is though, that to make the choice to go and
    do that, I would still EXPERIENCE it as leaving the life I have known, and I
    just wasn’t ready to do that yet.

    Thinking on it later, I came to the realization that if time is truly immaterial,
    then maybe I may as well go off to the other realities and places. All I will
    gain is experience and perhaps some kind of memories and knowledge, and
    yet I will still eventually return to the self I remember now! So, maybe next
    time I’ll make the choice to relax into the new situation (hopefully it won't
    be another emergency with an ambulance though!)

    The thought comes to mind that perhaps we are swapping lives and realities
    with other beings, that what we think of as our "selves" is really not what
    we are at the core – but is rather just a collection of memories and
    experiences that can be swapped for other ones. We can move the core to
    other situations, and perhaps in some ways the previous situation even
    ceases to have ever existed until we return to it and give it its existence
    back.

    My head is swimming with these thoughts and possibilities! I am not
    committed to any of these ideas yet either, but I am certainly questioning
    just what reality might be! It was truly an amazing experience!
     

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