what do you think now of alcohol?

I would like to know whether the psychedelics have changed anybody's views on alcohol.. I don't really mean having a drink to smoothen your throat, i mean the whole alcoholic scene in general...to me i truly feel alcoholism has nothing but a negative vibe to offer. I had a very close friend i used to go out drinking with before i tried any drugs, and i didn't realize then how terrible the situation really is, i don't drink at all now but my friend has a different view on it...because of how alcohol is seen as ok, but drugs seen as very dangerous, she told me she will never go beyond alcohol. I respected her wishes but our friendship fell apart. The more i understood the positive effect they had on me, the more she started to drink heavily thinking she will gain the same...now she ran away from home because of all the fights in her family and blames me for not being there.. She is now more arrogant and proud of her own violence and disrespect, the worst part is, no matter what you do to try and help, her negativity gets in the way. She is not the same person anymore! She now keeps telling herself she is an ugly person and said we cannot be friends because i'm a "drugie". This is just an example of how bad it can get and even though we will never be close again, i love her to bits even though she tends to even get violent with me and call me some horrible names, i hate her actions but i will always love her...this is not to say alcohol will always turn out like that but it is real and happening. There are so many things i would like to change but i have to live with it, this does not hurt me because she called me names or ended our friendship, it hurts because i love her and miss her, i hope she will atleast find comfort in her life someday! Maybe even stumble across this forum and decide to change her life!
(P.L.U.R)

 

I love beer, that will never change :tongue:
Drinking good, quality beer, wether imported
or micro brewed is a hobby of mine that
while has been reduced massivley, will never
completley lose it's place in my heart.
I dont like to get drunk, but a nice buzz with
craft brew can be a wonderful experience.
Like anything else in this world, moderation is
key, dont get locked out

 

haha so true
I dont like to get drunk anymore either, I cant even remember the last time I was drunk.

 

alcohol is just a nice recreational thing to use every now and again. but sometimes 6 or 7 hours after my trip is gone, ill have a big urge to just get drunk. dont know why. maybe it has something to do with the fact the with acid your senses are enhanced so much and now my body just wants things dulled down a bit. dont know

 

I feel the same way.

 

i get drunk several times a week, probably everyday on the weekends and sometimes during the week. acid only changed my views on how smoking pot had affected my life negatively, but i still want to smoke all the time but i cant right now.
but i can definantly see what you mean about alcohol being a negative thing, it can cause a lot of problems if too much is consumed by someone, or someone who just shouldnt drink at all. its not all bad, but its most definantly not all good

 

I was getting bad with alcohol (told this story 100 times here already), over the summer. Drinking occasionally only became wanting to get slightly drunk before any social activity I'd be going too, and I'd be taking 1 to 2 shots of 151 liquor to do this. (Maximum proof in my state). Then that's when I had this real interest in psychedelics, and someone refered me to the towns source of LSD. I bought 4 hits, waited 2 weeks (which probably weakened them a bit), and then ate all of them. Since I didn't know about ego death at the time I was sitting there for an hour asking myself what I got out of getting drunk and telling myself I don't even get the concept of what being drunk is. Then after my trip I just really didn't like drinking like I use too. I was getting horrible :-\

But it would be cool to get smashed with a few old friends again sometime just for old time sakes, only time I really drink now is at a party. They don't like the fact I do acid but they certainly haven't cut the drinking habit and are now actually pretty bad themselves unfortunately with alcoholism.

 

While on acid i pitty drinkers, seems so pointless. But acid is so hard to find, and i live down the street from liquer store.

 

I like drinkin a couple of beers and chilling while feeling comfy. Getting drunk is fun here and there, but I pretty consistently come out of the event with regrets, so I don't get drunk that much. I used to hate the taste as well, but I like beer a lot now ever since my last acid trip. Alcohol just makes you stupider, and shuts down the mind as opposed to opening it like psychedelics. Not to say shutting down the mind isn't fun here and there, but if you drink too often it makes you an idiot, I don't care who you are. Look at anyone who is drunk every weekend or more often than that, and 99% of them are less intelligent and much more concerned with alcohol than they used to be. People like that tend to lose the ability to have fun without it as well.

 

To me, alcohol isn't as fun anymore. Like bigblonde said, I still like to have a couple beers with some friends and stuff but I'm really not into like going to a party and getting drunk anymore. Ever since I got into psychedelics I realized that drugs should be used for productive reasons and I can't do anything productive while drunk.

 

Drinking will always be fun and kick ass. Drinking too much on the other hand will always suck balls.

 

I believe my experience with phycadelics actually has changed my views on alcohol. It seemed to me like it was this evil loophole that just brings a lot of people down. Even occasional drinkers just fight with each other or have strange arguments that only happen because of the substance. I do, however love to drink some wine or beers on occasion, only if it's with pot though...

 

i gotta go with the general consensus here and say that its fun to have a few beers once in a while and get a light buzz, but i just dont feel the need to get piss drunk anymore. i feel like while alcohol is destroying brain cells, lsd is getting more out of them. dont get me wrong, i have nothing against anyone who drinks but it just seems like it causes a ton of problems for people who get hammered a lot. i have 2 close friends who constantly get drunk and last year one was in a real bad car accident and the others g/f of 3 years dumped him because he was constantly drunk and making an ass of himself.the worst is they act like its a macho thing to be able to chug like theres no tommorrow. every party they're at they seem to get down on anyone who doesnt want to shotgun beers or do 5 kegstands and i just feel sorry for them because their lives are complete messes. i honestly think if they dropped acid a few times(maybe even once) theyd be able to see the big picture and slow down on the drinking

 

if water = life

and alcohol dehydrates you

then alcohol = _____


i dont see any benefit to drinking even if it is only a small amount. alcohol is an escape whether or not the person is conscious of it - alcohol is a great way to forget about your problems only making matters worse when the problems dont go away and you dont know how to deal with them because you keep forgetting about them.

for me, life is about learning and growing. everyday is a new experience, a new or continued lesson. alcohol impairs your judgment and your memory so it not good for learning. i only use drugs when i can see a benefit to using them in the long run. i smoke weed and use psychedelic drugs because they help me with life. drinking alcohol is like procrastinating life!

 

Nah man I completley disagree as everyone is different
and we all have different reasons for doing what we do.
For example, last night I was feeling tired and a little bit
down, and thought about getting a 40oz from the bar
to cheer me up. The reason I didnt go buy one? Because
I was able to step outside of my own desire and see
that I dont actually need beer, so why go?
But on Sunday was my son's 2nd birthday party, and
there was craft microbrews to drink, and I dont drive
anymore. So? I drank about 5 beers, had some fun
talking to family and friends, and went home and jammed
out to my music, connecting to the sounds more than I
would had I not been drinking.

 

so you think that alcohol is good for playing music. thats the funniest thing ever. alcohol impars your hand eye coordination - it doesnt improve. weed or LSD is much better for playing music.

it doesnt matter who you are man. it is not a matter of taste. alcohol is not good for you. if you think it makes you a better musician you are crazy.

people who enjoy alcohol are very good with their denial.

if you need alcohol to enjoy yourself there is something wrong with you.

i dont expect you to ever agree with me. even when i state the obvious people like you can some how deny it. i give up. well, maybe not. but i dont think there is anything i can say that i havent already in attempts to save you from yourself and alcohol.

 

once again, this kind of additude is presented from
you, the know-it-all additude, that we are all so
sick of, and for some reason such an enlightened
being can not seem to see things from any persons
perspective but your own.
No matter, because you went off on a rant about
a different situation than that which I presented
anyway, which is understandable since you seem to
automatically assume scenarios that dont happen.
When I said I was jamming to music, I was
referring to the act of listenting to music, not playing
music.
And what does needing alcohol in order to have
fun have to do with my post? Where is the self
denial? Though I have no need to say this to you
because you dont listen properly, to clarify what
Im about to other posters here, I have drank
beer at the most 4 times in the past 3 months,
and never even close to excess.
No one here is arguing that alcohol is good for
you, we are saying that it is not bad when only
used sparingly for fun, NOT for dependence.

 

jamming is when you are playing music with a group of people.


it is not like i was assuming something. you used the wrong word giving the wrong impression.

the fact that i thought you were playing music is your fault.

you listen to music.

jamming is when you play. i understand how you could make such a mistake but to come at me like there is something wrong with me for thinking you were talking about playing music is silly. it was your mistake.

if you want people to think you were listening to music say you were listening.

jamming is a well known term musicians use when they get together to play music.

and as for the i know everything trip - that is your trip... and you keep forgetting something. if you disagree with me then that means you think i am wrong - and who made you such a know it all.

you will never get it.

i think that alcohol is bad for you. it is very natural for me to think that something that is bad for me is bad for you. i am only trying to help you. you make it seem like there is something wrong with me for thinking i know better than you about things. get over it buddy. we all do it. you are doing it to me right now so kindly ---- f#@* off.

 

Well, perhaps in Canada the word jamming is used
soley to describe the experience of performing music
with a gathering of people, but I said 'jamming out'
which in America is also used to describe the
experience of getting into the music your listening
to rather seriously.
And it is not a matter of disagreeing with you in
terms of wether or not drinking is safe, not
one person here said that alcohol is healthy for
your body, but I am disagreeing with you in
the sense that you are claiming that i, as well
as many other people, are living and illusion that
we are blind to our alcoholic crutch in order to
enjoy ourselves, which is simply not true, at
least in my case.
Once again, you and your 'help'. Help is only
worth offering when its done out of love, not out
of proving a point. I dont need you to tell me that
I am living an unhealthy lifestyle, nor that I am
in denial of an alcohol reliance/addiction.
I drank beer at my sons 2nd birthday party, dear
God, please help me 3xi. I dont know if I can go
on living. Also, please fix my English while your at
it, Lord knows I need help in that department.
But I agree with one thing bro, it sure is 'good'
of you to want to help people :tongue:

 

Since ive done psychadelics, I've lost nearly all interest in alcohol. It makes me feel like I'm an idiot. It's amazing how it nearly kicked me off of becoming an alcoholic.