What do YOU think happens to the dead?

And if you can't be sure give your best guess.

I see the psysical world as a reflection of (what I call) the spiritual world(which to me just means the true nature of the univerce) so I figure what happens to your life energy (spirit, soul, consiousness, whatever) is a polar image of what happens to your physicial form.

You decompose into a less complicated form and spread out into everything. When your body dies bugs and animals and microbs eat your remains. Then they use that energy they got from your flesh to run around and shit and reproduce or get eaten and eventually die. They carry off this energy that was you and spread it vastly throughout the world and it becomes a part of new life. The rest of you rots into the ground and makes the soil fertile so new life can grow and eat there and the plants will seed and drift out.

I figure that's what happens to your metaphysicial self too. I don't believe you retain your consiousness after you die. That's a gift of life, self awareness. So that's kind of scary, because I don't want to stop being aware of the universe, but at least I found a way to believe I'll never just flat out die a black abyssmal death.

And I'm a serious sceptic about everything (or so I claim), and I'm not easily misled by magical thinking. This theory is based 100% on proven science and my observations on life in relation to what can be proven. And what can and has been proven is that "Energy is never destroyed, only changed in form"

The physical body is energy. Consiousness is energy,therefor some manner of 'spirit' does exist in some form, and will continue to through-out the span of the universe.

 

Agreed on this idea of urs.


Further more by ur definition we could then look at biological body as a receiver rather then the source of the consciousness. Following this idea we sure do have allot of receivers on and in our body's to credit this theory. Even at the very first cell of a new life form has chemical receptors not only that it has receptors which work on quantum level. Btw a grown human has 3trillions cells or some huge number like it. What does this mean well from the very get go we are shaped by the outside forces u could say well genes/proteins... are the main factors but even these were shaped by something outside them self sooner or later u will come to a conclusion that there is no such thing as inner self rather from our thoughts to our biology it all comes from the outside world, the universe is thinking through this hardware that we call life.


So after death the hardware disperses so does human based thoughts but the information that was u remains internal as long as the universe exist be it in the some what borrowed time frame of ur genes within the gene pool of ur species or be it at a more lasting universal albeit more wage history/passed state which is interwoven in to the very fabric of reality.


More on the side of self aware existence after death... If we would hold the many world theory to be true which states that there are many universes and many yous that are interconnected on quantum level do to uncertainty principal, well that would mean if u die in this universe the other forms of ur consciousness still remain exiting. And even if its a pipe dream well u still have interacted with this world leaving an in print of ur self on the quantum mesh of this universe and when u die u leave behind this negative space sorta speak which is basically u in non biological state so u still may exist in negative form from a stand point of physical matter yet this in print or network of quantum links that once was connected to ur body's receivers may still have self aware thought all by it self.

 

I think they get buried and cremated




I think that after we die our energy leaves the body, which is only a temporary vessel, and goes back into the energy that is the universe.

 

I have considered the mind-expansion thing you're talking about. I've always thought there's no reason to believe that the chemicals inside of our skulls are the only chemicals that are capable of creating any kind of sensation. Maybe consciousness is all of these combined chemicals, but maybe consciousness is just a by-product of any chemical combination, and as we decompose we'll just become more abstractly conscious.

I also like the idea that, since we can't distinguish between what we imagine and what is actually happening, everything being imaged somehow, that we'll just continue to imagine that we exist. I mean, you imagine how your body is, how your brain is. You imagine how your process of imagining works. Maybe there's no correlation between what you imagine and what actually is.

 

I like that.

 

They get 21 grams lighter as the soul comes out.

 

That's an urban myth. It's been disproven.

 

Ive passed out many times and dont remember shit so I figure death is the same except I wont wake up and know I passed out.

I like to believe our "energy/spirit/etc" lives on in the memories of the ones we've shared our time here with

 

I reckon the whole universe is set up as a playing field or some shit. When it gets too big it'll collapse and start over again and depending on how good of a person you were you can go onto the next level of being and if you're a dick then you get to start over because god is all forgiving right?

 

How can it be disproven when it can't even be proven that there's a soul?

I agree with both those lines.

 

Cause they found out people don't really loose 21 grams when they die.

 

depending on the time of day I expect Ill lose at least a pound..maybe two

 

they die

 

die, like a suicide bomber... ?..

 

i agree with this 100%, except for this: generally, humans are either cremated or buried in a coffin. Cremation doesn't really give anything back to to earth. Pine coffins probably decompose pretty fast, but the ones that are used now are pretty hardcore, i wonder how long it takes for them to decompose?

now that I think about it, if the purpose of life is to live within a circle in which your remains eventually allows other life to flourish, then cremation is really a complete waste of a human life.

 

soylent green :mickey:

 

Bodies rot and they rot very fast unless rather extreme measures are taken. Rot begins almost instantly at the moment of death - the eyes and brain begin to liquify. There is a quote in the book "Stiff" about how from a bacteria's perspective, all of a sudden, "It is raining food!"

Metaphysically, that's a whole different matter. I do not believe in Earth bound religious concepts. Yet, from my DMT trips in particular, my sense is that we cannot see/sense/measure all that there is, especially once you go into realms of literally higher dimensions. My feeling is that we will re-join with something infinite but it will not be with a distinct and unique sense of self. It will be kind of the ultimate entanglement - a rejoining from which we came where all time, all history, every moment that has ever and never been exists in a single point. It is that entangled.

 

I wasn't serious:2thumbsup:

 

i'd suppose the last moments of dying would seem to last
an eternity . even if an observer noted the death was
instantaneous the dying one's last thought will have absolutely
no relation to such a measure of time . the dying will
conciously experience making a poem without end . it
is a kindness .