What do you believe a ghost is?

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  1. *°GhOsT°LyRiC°*

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    what is your theory on spirits, ghosts, apparitions. help me with my research. im am working on a book. and it would be very helpful for me to know what others think and what your theories are. please share!

    thanks!
     
  2. Coopdog

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    I believe that we are actually creatures of energy. I believe that the human body is essentially our lower form, and that when we die, we simply shed these old bones, and the essence, or soul, or seat of intelligence and cognizance that makes us who we are just keeps right on going.

    I believe that there is an ocean of soul energy that makes up the essence of us all around us and through us all the time. I think some of these souls simply go back to the ocean of energy, like raindrops falling back into an ocean. Simply becoming a part of that ocean again.

    Others are not in such a hurry, or may simply not believe they are dead, and they simply go on. I think sometimes the raw energy of an event or an occurrance such as a battle or tragedy happening, can imprint that on the essence of the place where it occurred.

    Some people are sensitive to this type of thing and can experience things like this and some people are not and will not. Honestly, if you are one of the people who can't, then maybe THAT is a blessing:) PEace....
     
  3. xexon

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    Ghosts have nothing to do with the soul. The soul departs at the instant of death and never lingers.

    A ghost is leftover mental energy, which exists as a highly rarified electrical charge. It's so highly rarified, it almost doesn't qualify as matter. Indeed, it is the highest form of physical matter there is. After that, you enter another realm altogether.

    This leftover mental energy is the identity of the deceased person. It contains the ego, memories, likes and dislikes. This identity can have a life of it's own for a while before it is reabsorbed into the sea of energy that it came from. It doesn't understand the death of the body and tries to carry on without it sometimes. You can even hold a conversation with some of them. But sooner or later, their batteries will run down because there is no way to keep them charged.

    This is where hauntings come from.

    No God or devil. No evil or divine.

    Just a dissipation of energies.




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  4. dacre4

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    ^^ Yeah thats true but technically that isn't ghosts, that is poltergiest. I think the OP is asking this to people who believe in ghosts. Not I.
     
  5. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    That would be true if you believe ghosts to be souls rather than what I just said.



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  6. BrideOfLibertine

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    Very interesting theory :). I've always thought (if ghosts are indeed real) they would be traces of energy left behind by the deceased. An image/memory burnt into a place.
     
  7. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    All of creation is nothing but a continous flow of energy. Manifesting at different frequencies.

    When the soul departs, its like a camera flash going off. A ghost is just the electrical imprint of the person you see after the flash. It appears to have substance at times, but mostly it exists just out of your range of perception.

    The ability to see one is more dependent upon the observer than the ghost itself. You have the option of expanding your awareness through exercises while the ghost is in a steady state of decomposition or discharge.

    It fades away with time.

    Humans are alot like radio recievers. We pick up this cosmic energy of creation. Some people are basic models while others are like shortwave sets. They have a higher reach to what they can pick up.

    Ghosts are seen in the very low astral planes, just beyond your waking conciousness. You're already familar with these places because you visit them every night when you dream. This is where dreams occur.

    Its a matter of tuning to one frequency or another to pick up what you want.




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  8. CrazybutLazy

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    So there's just this completely retarded place where the stupidest shit imaginable happens and you visit there when you sleep? What's the point?
     
  9. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    This place is a blank slate. It is YOU that draws upon it. Practice a little control and you'll see what I mean.

    If you find it retarded, it is only because you have not found your footing there yet. You will. The lower astral planes are like the 2nd or 3rd floor of a great skyscraper. It's just above the ground floor you call home.

    In the levels above, you will find the view and the horizon to expand again and again.

    There are as many levels as you desire them to be.





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  10. CrazybutLazy

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    So are lucid dreams actually just you controlling your environment on that plain?
     
  11. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    As much as you can, yes.

    Its a lot like walking a tightrope in the dark. Difficult to find a balance point. There are no familar landmarks to navigate by and no clear horizons. It takes time to adjust to what you're sensing. You are immersed in a sea of creativity where anything you can focus on can be reality. The lack of discipline in thought can get you into trouble here.

    This is also the land of nighmares. So you have to be careful what you create.

    And when you arrive at this awareness, you'll learn not to create the things that will scare you. Its all you of course, but we are a species which enjoys jumping at the sight of our own shadow. :)



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  12. Coopdog

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    Very interesting theories Xexon, I'll give you that. Seems totally logical to me.
     
  13. evil i 13

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    anyone who speaks with absolute certainty on this subject is a fool.
     
  14. Zimmy

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    I personally think that 'ghosts' are spirits, for whatever reason still stuck on this plain. I also believe that residual energy can be left behind in spots, and just repeat events, rather than be an active 'ghost'
     
  15. Rock Hard

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    There is definately some weird shit going on in relation to ghost and apparitions. I agree with evil i 13 though, there is no way you can speak about this subject with absolute certaintity.
    It is interesting though to read everyone's view on this subject.
     
  16. evil i 13

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    speculations are fun, but that's really all they are. When we reach a point in quantum physics it might be known for sure, personally I think an orb isn't so different from ball lightning (aside from its being seemingly much weaker). I think people can put off energy that can stay in a place for a long time. I don't believe it's that far fetched. as for apparitions i'm still working on that one as i've never seen one of those.
     
  17. **PsYcHoDeLiC**

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    i think that during our lives we leave footprints in this reality and they can filter through into a living persons reality which is how we see apparant ghosts.
    i like the idea of dead relatives being able to come back but i dont find it that easy to believe,x x x
     
  18. Twizz

    Twizz Drug Conoisseur

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    I feel that they're energy, we all emit energy and energy never stops, it just keeps getting turned into different forms of energy.

    Perhaps we're ghosts in an alternate dimension?
     
  19. *°GhOsT°LyRiC°*

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    Thats residual haunting that your describing, half of it, the placed memories of the energy left over from a person that is gone, but you cant communicate with that kind of spirit, its just like an imprint they left behind,

    then the ones that do communicate, are the residual hauntings, where they do communicate, and they are the spirits that can move objects.
     
  20. themnax

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    well i don't believe what people call/see/experience as 'ghosts' are all any one thing.

    on thing i think can and does happen is some sort of energy recording of trauma on a molecular level. that's one thing. all this local hauntings bussiness.

    but i think also there are spirit friends and then sometimes people, the real selves of dead people maybe could get inclined to hang arround for one reason or another. but most of the way i've seen and heard hauntings described, sounds a hell of a lot more like recordings of some kind, then anything self awaire actually being there.

    of course any tragic awaireness, it's just my nature, i'd try to wish huggs and happiness to.

    just as my little invisible friends do me.

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