What Are Your Views On The Death Penalty

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by roamy, Mar 18, 2013.

  1. roamy

    roamy Senior Member

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    Is the death penalty right or wrong.do you agree or disagree with it. is it really justice,or just more murder,legal! murder ?
     
  2. pipgirl

    pipgirl Member

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    I think many people deserve it.
    The only thing that makes me against it is the fact that many innocent people have been sentenced in the past. That is horrible...
     
  3. GBBlondie

    GBBlondie Banned

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    I am in favor of the death penalty for limited circumstances where someone has committed a crime so heinous as to have forfeited their right to exist on this planet with the rest of us. That includes mass or multiple murders, murders of police officers, murders committed during rapes, and the like.
     
  4. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    I think the death penalty is more hypocrisy than anything. How many people have the government murdered over the years?

    I don't have any faith in the system to support the death penalty. So many people have been wrongly convicted.

    Besides, putting a cold-blooded killer to death is like giving them the easy way out. I think rotting in a prison cell is far worse.
     
  5. odonII

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    I think killers should be killed. There are miscarriages of justice, true - so that has to be addressed. It has to be beyond reasonable doubt - perhaps a signed confession and irrefutable evidence - rather than a judge and jury deciding.
     
  6. Heat

    Heat Smile, it's contagious! :) Lifetime Supporter

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    With DNA today there are very few wrongful convictions and the death penalty would not be applied to cases already settled.

    I am actually torn on this as I believe that there are some people in society that should not be able to be given the opportunity to ever commit the same crimes again and what they have done possibly does warrant the ending of their life. I also feel though that it does not change the outcome of the crime and the damage is done and can not be reversed by the convicted being executed.

    If there is no death penalty in place then I feel that certain crimes should be a life sentence, meaning when they die a natural death they are done serving their time.
     
  7. PEACEFUL LIBRA

    PEACEFUL LIBRA DAMN RIGHT I'M A WEIRDO

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    i only believe in the death penalty when you hurt or kill a child
     
  8. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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    I favor it in theory, the problem I have as mentioned is that our justice system is far from perfect. So I don't know how I feel about it in practice. I guess in the face of undeniable (including DNA) evidence, it's fine.

    From a pragmatic standpoint, it's damn expensive to keep a prisoner for the rest of their life.
     
  9. roamy

    roamy Senior Member

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    very interesting mixture of views so far
     
  10. odonII

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    There dead, Jim. Would you rather spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep them in a better life than they gave to their victim?
     
  11. Lodog

    Lodog Senior Member

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    Seeing as I have no plans to deserve such a punishment I don't care.

    Smarter people than me have debated this topic back and forth for ages, and I see it lasting until there is another "Great Awakening" or something.

    Of course France's "Great Awakening" ended in many rolling heads so...
     
  12. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Come again???
     
  13. Lodog

    Lodog Senior Member

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    He was quoting Bones from Star Trek "They're dead Jim!" then giving his opinion.
     
  14. Gongshaman

    Gongshaman Modus Lascivious

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    DNA evidence can not only be mishandled or manipulated, it can now be fabricated!

    http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-205_162-5248133.html

    "Scientists in Israel have successfully fabricated blood and saliva samples containing DNA, potentially undercutting what has been considered key evidence in the conviction or exoneration in crime cases, the New York Times reported.

    According to the newspaper, the scientists also demonstrated that if they had access to a DNA profile in a database, they could construct a sample of DNA to match that profile without obtaining any tissue from that person.

    "Any biology undergraduate could perform this," said Dr. Dan Frumkin, lead author of the paper, which is published online in the journal Genetics.

    The paper asserts that while DNA analysis has become a centerpiece of law enforcement, the possibility that such evidence can be faked has not been considered."

    Personally I'd say no death penalty, but maybe a form of exile for those found irrefutably guity of the most heinous crimes...Helicopter them onto a remote Alutian Island...drop'em a bail of .22 ammo, flour, coffee and bacon once in a while...oh and plans for polar bear proof shelter lol
     
  15. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    That man that killed a mother and raped her 10 year old daughter is an excellant example of one who should go bye-bye. If not,the other cons will give him what Dahmer got and deserved. He got beat up the other day in jail ,so he won't last long either way. It's no great loss to anyone to keep human- looking monsters alive.
     
  16. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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    That's a good point.

    If I think about myself being falsely accused and convicted, personally I would rather be killed.

    If a person sits in prison under false pretenses for 25 years and evidence turns up that proves this, they release you and say "oops sorry about that".

    At least if the state killed me my family could sue. Enough of that happens and they might do some cleaning up in terms of our justice system.
     
  17. r0llinstoned

    r0llinstoned Gute Nacht, süßer Prinz

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    lol didnt the guards "accidentally" leave jeffery dahmer alone in the weight room or somehing?
     
  18. odonII

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    Yes. And thanks for correcting my grammar.

    If they are dead we don't have to pay to keep them in jail. So what if they get the easy way out. Is it the easy way out? Would you prefer to be alive or dead?
     
  19. CherokeeMist

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    yes, but i could point to some innocent guy who got executed and had a loving family who believed he was a monster... and we could go back and forth all day... see how that game works?

    i think we should stop looking at criminals like they're less-than-people. the entire situation and circumstance, and all involved, surrounding a crime needs compassion... i am shocked at all the talk of human beings needing to go bye-bye here.

    when is aggression supposed to end?

    i'm obviously not suggesting we do nothing to those who break the law... but this attitude a lot of people seem to have towards the so-called scum, dare i say it needs to stop, for the good of everyone?

    now, practically speaking, i really don't know anything about costs or even my opinion on whether being *alive* is the ultimate goal of a human-being, so i'm still not sure on this whole debate, just wanted to throw in my two cents on the cycle of hatred
     
  20. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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    Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth brother. We're not all hippies here..
     

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