Since human is the only form in which one can attain enlightenment, my wish is to be reborn as a human. Despite the infinitesimal chance of that happening again.
You certainly need to reincarnate. If not, where will Skip's carnations find new loyal helpers. HF could end up becoming history. On a more serious note. Are you one of the increasing number of people (myself included), who doubts that human life is native to this planet. Religion debunks this theory, but why. If god is our overall master, does he have no say in what is going on within the other trillions of planets and stars in the universe. Sadly, even with evidence of more than 1,000 extraterrestrial visits a day, governments are either lying, or keeping their heads firmly in the sand buckets. I have heard on good authority, that over the next two decades we are going to be drip fed the truth and what happened in 1947. In the meantime ask yourself two questions. Who invented the internet, no one has even claimed responsibility. The few people who have tried don't have the first clue how when I press the send button you can be reading this message in less than a hundredth of a second. If I called you, both using our mobile phones, you could be sunning yourself in the Bahamas and I could be shivering somewhere up in Alaska. We would both be away from our phone base locations, but we could be chatting within 12 seconds. To achieve this, my phone would have pinged every mast on the entire planet to find you, before giving up and sending a voicemail or missed call to your home location if your phone was switched off. To all but a few, it sounds so simple. Just send a few trillion pings per second to every mast on the planet. PS. Jane just called our daughter to tell her that I am having another attack of brainworm. She ignored the fact that despite Christina beeing about 400 miles away, her call connected within less than 3 seconds.
Nope, not me. I don't know if religion debunks the theory, but science certainly does. I am, by nature, a scientist. I think we can say with considerable certainty that there are no homo sapiens on other planets. On the other hand, I do not believe, from a Buddhist perspective, that the term "humans" applies only to homo sapiens. The Buddhist classification is based on intellectual capacity, and there may well be other species elsewhere that have human capacities. I can't speak for any hypothetical supreme being. Nope, I don't believe that either. Sorry to disappoint. Actually, it would contact considerably fewer nodes than that. Your phone number reveals your country, your province or state, and your service provider. So the search would start there. Your service provider is keeping track of your location as long as your phone is on. It is a quick lookup in a database to see which tower you pinged last. Your phone is constantly pinging cell towers as you move, to locate the closest one, and the provider records those pings (at least the latest). Interesting factoid: the algorithm that cell phones use to locate the nearest tower was invented by 1940s actress Hedy Lamarr.
I don't wish to be reincarnated, resurrected, nor to journey to a better place after I leave this one. Enough is enough. I expect to go six feet under, where my remains will provide nourishment for numerous worms. If that can be considered reincarnation, I guess worms are my destiny!
At the moment I do not believe in reincarnation. Things seems cyclic so there is a sign post but I don't know, so until I know I won't hand over to belief. I think I would go for a Giraffe or Dolphins and of course birds. I suppose the question was to provoke thought into what reincarnation under the Buddhist suggestion that it is incredibly unlikely you will be human again. I'll keep meditating, you never know ! I am going to start on the Tibetan book of living and dying again some time in the next 3 months, I have a stack of books I will read. Though I am aware that books are mere signposts, they can keep you going. Although there is a sense of dissatisfaction as you plough through them that they are merely words when you end one. It feels good to read them, though I find they are largely saying the same things but with different words and characters of the authors.Words that are sign posts and nothing else. The words can be important and some have a deep impact, often very short sentences. I cannot think of time better spent though with other forms of 'entertainment' they seem more empty to me these days. I already meditate every day and cannot see myself ever stopping. Some days I am less inclined to but always sit. I just be for a bit every day an hour seems optimal for now it often overruns, rarely underuns. I keep going.
I would say that given our knowledge of how genetics determine what we are, your next incarnation would pretty much have to match the genetics of your new parents to keep your spirit. So how do you fit in to that scenario. Your brain isn't the same. Now if you believe your spirit, which I assume includes your personality, more or less stays the same, then that implies your physical composition has nothing to do with either, right? If you believe you leave your personality or ego behind, then what's left of you, exactly? How would you or others know it's the same you with a new ego and personality. Sorry, I don't buy the Dalai llama selection process. It seems political. So if you reincarnate as an ant, you're supposed to have the same physical mental capacity to be as spiritual as you were before? Well I guess you'd have to fuck up pretty badly in your last life to get downgraded so. I suppose i'd want to be reincarnated as a an alien living on a clean, sane planet where everyone respects each other and their planet.
Only the consequences of your previous actions. They wouldn't. They can assume that you are the rebirth of someone, but there is no telling of whom or what species. Absolutely not. If you are reborn as an ant, you are an ant, with an ant's mentality, such as it is. Many do!
I'm not Buddhist and reincarnation is kind of heavy. "What do I deserve?" I might wonder a bit. Maybe a fish.
The point of my original post was to clearly remind humans who are Buddhists what their belief system involves according to their belief system. What you believe in, typically involves never being a human again. Also it seems that we can extrapolate that Buddhism is not a very good practice for enlightening people given how few are enlightened. How does one move forward with that ?
Are you suggesting that Buddhists don't want to be reborn as humans? If so, that is a mis-characterization. Buddhist are taught that the only form in which it is possible to become enlightened is the human form. Therefore, we try our best to earn a human rebirth. Buddhism is the best practice for enlightening people, given the even fewer numbers of other religions who are enlightened. One moves forward by living one's life according to the Precepts. By doing so, one has the best chance of earning a human rebirth, and therefore the best chance to hear the Dharma, to understand it, and to practise it.
No they wish to I am sure, but I have read quite many times by notable Buddhists, it is unlikely. quite sure. The Tibetan book of living and dying makes quite a thing out of it. You know the quote something like... if you surfaced on a huge ocean to be a human again would be like surfacing at the very place where one sole floating leaf is. That is not an inspiring statement based on laws of averages. In fact it is firmly discouraging. I will find out soon and quote it as it is on my reading agenda. (in short prepare to be an animal) I never saw other religions suggesting enlightenment was the end so they are difficult to compare. Enlightenment is quite a big deal in Buddhism and yet... looks around. Maybe 10 or less out of billions, many generations of Buddhists. All unconfirmed as well, though how one confirms it ? And that is if reincarnation even exists, which is very highly debatable. I simply do not know. I think it could possibly be nothing, which is interesting as that would be basically the same as this life according to a Buddhist. I don't know and I am quite ok with that, I know life and it is mysterious enough in itself. I don't have a problem with post death. Getting there in your final hours probably won't be much fun, but not existing would be a non issue as far as I know beyond physical programmed instinctive struggle. In fact in part, my practice is born of possibly helping have some conscious skills to help smooth that, even slightly. I suspect it is very easy to become completely overcome with fear if there is pain and suffering. The very worst must be some form of difficulty breathing, I would wish that on no one passing. There is a good sentiment in that, I wish all who read this have a fearless and smooth a passing as is possible. With the very least suffering possible.
Yes, that is a well-known analogy. The usual version is that there is a "yoke" (think one of those life-saving rings on boats) floating on the ocean. There is a blind turtle that surfaces for air once every 100 years. The odds of being born as a human are like the odds of that turtle poking his head through the ring when he surfaces. Yes, the point of the story is that the odds are vanishingly small, but not quite zero. Yet here we are, born as humans despite the odds. So we are extremely fortunate, and we should make the best use of our time here while we have this rare opportunity. It is supposed to be motivational. Whether one understands rebirth literally or not, the take-away is the same.
If I have to reincarnate as an animal - and I get to choose which animal....... I'd choose to be an eagle. I don't think there's any other animal as intrinsically free as that.
The analogy fails hard. It also makes no sense if there are 5 Billion humans which seems a lot in the scale of magnitude we operate at. It is off putting and illogical that is very unhelpful.
I'm just wondering why so many posters seem to be unable to answer a simple premise's question. All Unityatone asked was what animal we'd pick - not whether we believe in reincarnation or if it even is a real thing. Simple game. What animal - other than human?
Can one come back as a cosmic ray? Almost Pure energy that travels at 99.9% of the speed of light able to pass thru any object in the universe? That would seem to be a higher form of consciousness or being. Just read the second biggest one ever recorded just went thru the earth. The funny thing about it is they don't know where it came from...a black void without any existing galaxies or anything. They have no idea what created it either. Would be a cool reincarnation! Did it's transit affect the Earth or us humans?
I appreciate the replies and Kathy L also. All replies show willingness of people to share their time and their understanding whatever it is and that is appreciated.
I don't know why anyone who believes in reincarnation would even expect to be reborn on Earth. There's an infinite number of planets and stars. Life can take an infinite number of forms. If Buddhists believe in science, then why such limitations? And even Buddha had to put things in terms humans could understand when science as we know it didn't exist. Telling people you might return as a jellatinous creature on a planet of liquid nitrogen would not have made sense. See what I'm getting at? So the question of returning again as a human when there could be much higher forms of energy/matter to attain is a self-delusional limitation. Open your mind beyond the human paradigm.