We are cavemen - welcome to the singularity

Read this and learn why we are becoming a redundant evolutionary force.
Basically our hitech machines are being built and designed by computers. Humans are beginning not to understand the exact design and function of their technology and this is leading us to the state where we are a spent evolutionary force. Do you know exactly how each of those components in your tv relate to each other to bring you sound and vision? did you know that after the intel pentium II computers began designing and improving the pentium 3 and some changess they made are now not completely understood by the scientists
The human mind is beginning to fail in understanding of its technology
strong AI will render us obsolete
wikipedia on singularity

 

Yeah, but we will keep up through genetic engineering and such. We will max ourselves out biologically, and also use neural implants and such things to boost intelligence.

All in all we are leading toward a merging of man and machine(be it biological or not).

I hope this will be within my lifetime, as I wish to live for a very long time indeed.

 

Nothing new here. Cavemen knew that a particular kind of rock was good for tools while a different rock wasn't. They didn't know why one was better than the other, but they could tell the difference.

Just as a cell phone user may not know why it works lousey in an elevator, they know that to use a cell phone, step outside.

Knowing enough about technology to operate it is all that is needed in most cases.

 

People are always educated in areas they want to learn about and people will ALWAYS (YES FUCKING ALWAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) want to improve technology. Our minds are becoming far more able to handle the masses of information about these technologies and while no-one knows about all the technologies around them, it doesn't matter, there are enough of us to concentrate on set areas each, people only need to know how to live to be able to live.

Science is improving exponentially.

So.. I couldn't disagree more.

 

I dont think you understood it.
The article was not disputing that humans would be able to understand the machine technology. The article did not preclude from the eqution that humans would integrate with the machinery.
It merely proposes that the point at which singularity begins is when humans invest their technology with AI. (Bearing in mind that AI might only be possible by "injecting" human intelligence into a machine.) At this point we will all understand what has been done. From there The rate at which machinery will then become too complex for humans to understand will increase. Machines will build other machines, and the purpose of those machines will not be understood by humans (perhaps software or nanotech)
it is at this point the true singularity will begin. The point at which we lose control over the design of machines, The point at which two intelligences compete and that competition will favour the machine and will expand exponentially until we lose the race. That is the singularity - when the rate of technological change means humans are no longer able to comprehend the rate of technological change with millions of new machines being produced that only have relevence to other machines and cannot be comprehended by humans

 

that's why i don't like the ideea of AI.we should make computers as performant as we can,we should invest them with reason so they can find quick solution to our problems,but we should never,ever invest them with free will,desires or a punishment-reward sistem like the limbic sistem in humans.that will cause them to do how they wish.

a computer with a mind is not a bad thing;as long as it can be forced to show his lines of reasoning in solving a problem.what makes them potentially dangerous is that some whacko might invest them with instinctual-like traits.that's what makes animals competitional and prone to eliminating one another.

computers,no matter how smart,are not a threat if they don't have desires.

 

and yes,nothing has changed in the human race since prehistoric times.
there are those who bring the fire in the cave,and there is the majority that enjoys the warmth,not caring where it comes from or what it implies.

 

i think if computers had a limbic system they would be totally easy to manipulate - just give them their own equivelant of heroin.


computers wont think just like humans any time soon

largely because humans dont know how they think yet

humans could work out the reasons for their computer's actions, theyre just lazy. they designed the computer, therefor they know how it acts. the more complexity goes into designing a computer, the harder it is to decypher the logic behind an output. but it is never beyond reason, unless random actions were calculated into the computer and not logged. that would be a pretty useless thing to have i would have thought. maybe not?

 

it seems to me that i read, recently, that human beings are still evolving. (it also strikes me as being in some reputable source; time magazine or science news, perhaps. look it up if you care to, i can't remember) based on brain-weights, and the amount of gray matter (cerebral cortex; the seat of higher reasoning) in the human brain, scientists believe the human animal is still improving, and indeed adapting to his current lifestyle.

while this may be a slow process when juxtaposed with the technological advances of the last couple hundred years, a small amount of change in the processing power, or speed, of our computer will increase our intelligence exponentially, as the main advantage of the human mainframe is its ability to process many, many pieces of information concomitantly.
so then, maybe we are falling behind our inventions, and maybe we could lose control to the machines...but stand strong, neo, for we have yet to begin decline.
as a final point, i think it is important to note that we may run out of resources, sure. however, the whole reason our current economy, and technologies, stand as they do is because they were available, and we possessed the intelligence to manipulate them.
i believe we are intelligent enough to transition from one power source to another, without sacrificing too much in the way of civilization. but even if we aren't, i find it hard to believe that we would not be able to find some new type of resources to manipulate to formulate a new plan.
that's if we don't all burn up and dry out from global warming first; damn oil.