watching the republicans debate tonight

so far Ron Paul is looking better and better.

mod asked him what federal programs he would cut.

Paul started naming whole DEPARTMENTS.

Now that's what i'm talking about...

If we end up with Clinton vs Giuliani I might just leave the damn country.

 

Brief Overview of Congressman Paul’s Record
He has never voted to raise taxes.
He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
He has never taken a government-paid junket.
He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.
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He voted against the Patriot Act.
He voted against regulating the Internet.
He voted against the Iraq war.

He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.

Congressman Paul introduces numerous pieces of substantive legislation each year, probably more than any single member of Congress.

 

kAY screw kucinich i wanna vote for him!

 

He's still kicking ass.


he just got into a little sparing with ghouliani over non-interventionism and held his own.

neo-cons are socialists wearing american flags and spouting about wedge issues, at their core they are the right branch of the democratic party.


a Clinton vs Giuliani race would be absurd, reflection of a reflection.

 

It was funny hearing all the bootlickers cheer after Giuliani's lame response to Paul.

 

yeah, i know.

But you know that what Paul was saying was hitting a chord with a lot of people.

 

first time i heard someone defend torture as "enhanced interrogation techniques"...

romney aint gonna get the vote anyway, no one likes mormons.

 

Giuliani can't lose
he was the mayor of 9/11
thoguh this Ron Paul dude seems really awesome, he's fucked

I think CLinton vs. Giuliani may very well happen
and I think that I am scared to live here as of 2008

 

this is a thought process that needs to STOP.

If every person (and i gurantee it is an overwelming amount) actually voted for who they want to instead of voting to keep the greater of two evils out of office we may actually have a half way decent man, such as Paul, in office! Instead they are viewed as minor and a vote for them is adding to the greater of two evils tally..whatever fake party the person in particular aligns themselves with says who the greater of two powers is.

I don't give a flying freak what I hear from the talking heads..it is Paul I am voting for.

I realize there is a chance that he may become corrupted, he may sell out at the right price () but until than, he is legit!

Don't gimmie that cop out of an excuse..he is fucked so why vote for him...spread the word! Not many people know of him (my freakin politics and society teacher did not ) but from the people I have talked to, in regards to Paul, they really warmed up to him pretty quickly.

 

no no
I'd still vote for the people I feel will lose, but you gotta realize that doesn't mean the rest of the country will
how many voters even watch the debates?

 

well he's been in congress for a while and hasn't sold out yet, check out his voting record.

FOX was slandering him as much as they could manage right after.

"you mean there might be valid reasons why the middle east hates the u.s.a and we should get the fuck out of there"

Heresy! We must kill the terrorists just as fast as we are creating them!

fucking tools.

And was it just me or were Hannity and Colmes stopping just short of joining Giuliani and McCain in a circle jerk...

 

for sure, 30 years or so and pretty consistent. that is key to me.

 

Giuliani, McCain, and Romney are play acting as conservative nationalists when they are really just militant power grubbing socialist corporate puppet whores.

FOX reporter just did a double take, he was saying shit about Ron Paul and then had to admit that Paul was LEADING their text message poll.

 

Oh man.... Sean Hannity is such a laughing stock.

 

He needs to convince pro war folks that he is legit, that is his key hurdle I think.

some folks I have talked to, who would otherwise be voting for him, are against him because of his stance on Iraq.

 

Paul is a real maverick-he dares to be different, and doesn't seem to care who's feathers he ruffles. Someone (I forget who) called him 'the one exception to the Gang of 535' in Congress. I really respect him, although it is highly unlikely that he'll win the Republican nomination. I'm sure the Repubs will do everything they can to derail his nomination by their party.

He should really run as an independent, which is really what he is anyway. He's no more a Republican than he is a Democrat. I heard him speak at the University of Houston when he ran as the Libertarian Party candidate years back, and he really isn't a Libertarian anymore than he is a Democrat or Republican. I think he might have a lot more of a chance of winning if he ran a real agressive campaign as an Independent, and chunked these party labels.

I happen to live in his district (I moved there just a little over as year ago). Not that it really matters. I'm a little surprised that the hicks out here had the intelligence to elect him in the first place. The irony is that this area is also very pro-Bush.

 

Explain to them what conservatives over the years have always thought about pre-emptive and preventive wars, they are not won, they are used to bleed our nation's morale and resources and attention. American wars should be about defense and retribution to those who first harm us.

not the trotskyist bullshit "spreading democracy" crap the neos go on about.

 

Still plenty of time before the election,if he doesn't get the republican ticket he still go as an Indie, although if he can't get the republican nod i dont see how he can win as an indie.

 

thompson always looks as if he just got smacked with a shovel...

 

Well, I think that the powers-that-be in the Republican Party are just not going to let him win the nomination in their party. They'll do anything, by hook or crook, to derail it. That's basically what they did to Pat Buchanan after he won the New Hampshire Primary back in 1996.

The Republicans are going to make sure that they put in someone that's part of their 'establishment'. I personally believe that Condy Rice is going to announce her candidacy a little in the future, and that Bush/Cheney, et. al., are going to throw their 'support' behind her. And, if Paul ran as an independent (which is really what he is anyway) it would give him more visibility, and ultimately, probably more respect, too. It's true that independents have an uphill battle to fight, but let's face it: that's really what Paul is anyway!