War on Terror-why arn't we winning ?

This weeks Boston Marathon tragedy brought back memories of 9/11 ,7/7 in London and all the other attrocities we've suffered ,Nationally or Internationally. So why ar'nt we seeing some progress in the war against Terror? Is the threat increasing? Are there more individuals or groups willing to use terror to further their aims since the 'War on Terror' was declared ?

 

Because as with the 'war on drugs,' there are ulterior motives that are more important to the people waging said war.

 

I think that a big part of the problem is that we are only trying to address the problem of terror attacks by making it harder to commit them and easier to catch the perpetrators.

It seems to me that a surer way to make the world safer is to address the reasons why so many people are angry enough to commit these crimes in the first place

 

Cannot argue with that e7m8 . It seems that Democracys failed if people think they need to resort to violence to be heard . Part of the answers gota be within what you say,but how do you address their 'reasons' and should we-risking giving them the message that their actions have 'worked'?

 

Also having a "boogyman" keeps the masses in check and easily controlled. In the past it was the Communist, now its the Terrorist along with the fear and ignorance.

 

A war on terror is the ultimate endless war...

 

And all money the being spent on this "endless war" is going in somebody's pocket.

 

well, if someone has committed an act of terror, they've got to be punished. Intercepting terrorists and deterring them is part of the solution, I think.

Addressing the reasons is more about dealing with people who haven't committed any crimes.

If someone has a legitimate grievance, there should be a process to address that. That's something that should be done simply out of a sense of fairness, but that will probably also reduce incidents of terror. I don't think that we should worry if doing the right thing in the first place is perceived as sending the wrong message.

Better diplomacy is part of the solution. Also reforms in the media. I think that the media has been undermining values and community, and also intentionally antagonizing people.

 

The part that the media plays in serving the aims of terrorism interests me.It is an important feature of 'Spectaculars' (as the IRA used to call them) that target locations are surrounded by cameras and the press. The terrorists see publicity for themselves and their 'cause' as the key aim. For us ,it seems to me , it could be their key weakness as its an area we COULD influence !

 

There are domestic terrorists, which is all about the "fuck you, me first" U.S. mentality. Then there are the foreign terrorists like Bin Laden, that are fed up with the U.S. global dictatorship. The U.S. has been trying to dictate to the whole Muslim world since WWI. Bin Laden was fed up with U.S. military bases all over Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq, and almost every other middle eastern country. Terrorism will continue for the rest of our lives, because the U.S. is not going to except the fact, that is is not God. Besides, the corporate military contractors like Cheney's Halliburton make too much money to let it end. The U.S. economy depends on war. Without it we go into recession. Peace takes a trillion dollars a year out of our economy. Sick huh.

 

There has been a lot of progress. How many airplanes have been hijacked since 2001? None, to my knowledge. How many fatal bombings have there been? Considerably less than in the 1990's. This partial list is just for the US:

1993 - World Trade Center bombing - Tower #1
1995 - Oklahoma City bombing - federal building
1996 - Atlanta Olympic Park - Eric Rudolph
1998 - Atlanta abortion clinic - Eric Rudolph

Also, the '90's saw the end of the Unabomber's bloody 16-year run, in 1995.

The largest fatal bombing in US history took place in 1927 (Bath, MI).

 

Because there is nothing great to win by waging war on terror. At least not until it is sincerely tried to solve the source of the problem and not only hunt people and groups down or declare war on countries that have been fucked so hard by in the first place the american system that they turn to retarded actions as terrorism.

 

i.e. The Iran/Iraq war.

 

Fucked so hard by the "american system"?

 

The money,of course, but true believers have "forever" to inflict damage on whatever they find offensive, which apparently is just about everything "we' DO. Appears as if this WILL last forever. People that are willing to blow themselves or others to bits for differing 'thought' are irredeemable. If the US had tried to help citizens of other countries to live better lives instead of making arrangements to take resources from them through any means necessary--paying and backing/installing dictators ,playing IMO games with loans not re-payable or outright invasion, we might have a better ,more peacefull world. How can this end? It's what "we" do and have done,to the point that our own citizens and those of other countries are suffering over the games of the rich.

 

Hmmm, but those types of actions aren't the solely the realm of America. Nah, the people waging terror against "us" are just hypocritical. They go for "us" because we're on top. That said, if there is any "us", it is not just Americans. It is the West.

Then again, of course, who have your fanatics out there that would try and kill Americans and other Westerners simply because we are non-believers.

 

I am personally not terrified and although bombings are tragic, to declare war on tragedy is like screwing for the cause of virginity. The tragedy of death and destruction occurs regardless you blame men for it. To defend yourself against threat does not reduce threat as much as make you feel threatened. The things that improve our security or sense of it are good nutrition, adequate rest, and getting up every morning.

 

The attack on the Boston Marathon shows that terror attacks should be treated as criminal matters, not as endless war with repression of civil liberties. This is yet another bogus "war", like the "war on poverty", the "war on drugs", the "war on cancer". Expensive and endless. Follow the money.

 

the war on terror is a war on peace . oops , that seems
too weird for words . it implies to win is to surrender . oh ,
noooo! horrific/outrage! and then i wonder if Obama will ever
earn that Peace Prize he accepted ? we'll soon know .

 

On top of what? Yes, this is a serious question.