When will the US attack Iran? Latest story from Britain is that the US is readying for all contingencies and the attack plan is now being finalized. What do you think?
Oh I should add that today there is news about two new Iranian weapons. The first is a new torpedo that can cut a warship in two, and the other is a multiple warhead missile that was fired on the first day of the Iranian war games (yes they're getting ready too). The missile was fired successfully, yet US and Israeli radar could NOT DETECT IT! Yup, if the US attacks Iran, it's gonna be all out war, and the US is NOT going to fare as well as Cheney & Rumsfield think. And the long-term ramifications for US policy in the mideast are horrific to say the least. Can you spell NUKE IT, baby?
Well hey, at least it sounds like it'd be more of a conventional war, something the US military is actually good at.
not this year. simply not the support... the republican (and labour) administrations both need something to happen to try and stir public opinion, either that or wait a long ass time/
I'm digging in now. Iran to Bush is like a red rag to a bull. The new Iranian leader is doing everything he possibly can to get America & the allies to invade his country. Also has it not occured to everyone that if America occupies Iran;a whole swaythe of land: Iraq-Iran-Afghanistan is connected & unified under the American / $ flag. Makes driving jeeps more easier.No time wasting boarder controls. I think President Bush will play out the whole U.N. bureaucracy thing because it makes him look very studious.....meanwhile Cheyney gets the war machine oiled up.Blair will play honest broker,routine;but he'll come running the moment Bush hollers. Bush's gotta hurry up.In 2008 Hillary Clinton will be in & it's rumoured she doesn't like playing: "men's games with men".
I think the timeline is much more compressed than ppl realize. The US position in Iraq is tenuous. That is it's getting closer to the time the Iraqis and the American people demand that US troops leave Iraq. Of course Bush & his cronies have no intention of leaving, as they need the military bases there to help launch the attacks on Iran. It's all part of their plan. Of course Iran's new missiles will pose a big threat to Israel, US troops in Iraq and of course US bases in the region. If those missiles have good targeting capability, all the Iranians need are the locations and poof, the US will sustain heavier casualties than in all these years fighting in Iraq. The Israelis can't do much about the missiles either, and they will probably have the final say in what happens because it's life or death for them. My guess is, if military analysts determine that Iran is close to having sufficient deterrents, that they will advise against it, but Bush & his cronies will see this as the last chance to beat Iran without actually having to nuke the whole country. They WILL do it! War is coming!
Skip, did you by any chance hear this news from The Telegraph??? Because The Telegraph seems to think they are seriously thinking about attacking Iran. It's -insane!- They are quoting whitehall and MOD people with "some quarters of whitehall" talking about "inevitable". Let us hope, very sincerely, that this is press hyperbole. Crap paper. Mysterious sources. But clearly "some quarters" of Whitehall are insane. I don't think the British or the US government is about to start a war in any foreseeable future in my opinion. It would be suicide. Step one is an oil embargo that will obliterate the world economy. Iran is a big exporter and there is no margin of error in oil atm. Then Iran is this huge country with a giant army; they could infiltrate forces into Southern Iraq and get into a land war with US/UK forces there. These sources pisses me off. But read for yourselves: LINK
Actually I was thinking a bit, and yeah it may be happening sooner.. Like, perhaps they look at it like this.. It would be an actual war.. Real targets and an enemy army.. There would be an actual observable level of progress... OR lack of progress.. But either way it would be much more clear.. Might be ble to unite the idiots behind them against an actual enemy state that's not just a bunch of guerillas.. And perhaps even boost morale from succesfully completing definable battles and such.. And not to mention, it's one thing to pull troops from a shithole situation like Iraq.. IT's entirely another to run away admitting defeat from a solid enemy.. So whether or not people think it's justified once we're actually in there they might go along for those type of reasons. I really don't think it's a good idea though.
But if they cut off the oil, erealistically we would have no choice but to attack. We're still the instigaters, but that wouldn't convince the US not to continue a war against them.. I don't think so anyway. Like you said, there is no margin of error with oil currently.. And as far as their army.. They may have a large army, but doubtful it's as large as the US's and it really wouldn't make sense to divert some to a place where the shits already plenty stirred up while we attack them on their own soil.
The title of this thread needs to be corrected. It says, "War on Iraq" when it should say, "Iran". Is the US going to attack Iran? Of course it is. It's just another part of Bush's plan to take over the whole friggin' world-and Tony Blair doesn't mind getting his little slice of the pie, too.
It's gonna happen. The reptilians want complete control of the Middle East. They don't spend so much time on a campaign to demonize them, make up a bunch of lies, and generally put in some effort, for the hell of it. Iran will be the next Iraq within a year or so if no one does anything.
Ah there's the rub. Americans are so fucking apathetic (in general), you'll never see protests like in France. As long as it don't affect Joe Blow, he don't care. Of course if gas for his SUV doubles or triples, he's gonna get mean, no?
Close.... what will probably happen is that the civil war that'll overtake iraq will spread over the border into Iran. Which is prolly wot bush is hoping.......that way he can invade iran under the "dealing with insurgents" definition.
Former CIA analyst Ray McGovern (the man who recently grilled Rumsfeld on live TV) says that he believes we will invade Iran either in June or July.
from a business point of view america will probably leave when the oil runs out. to have spent so much money on iraq to deliver freedom is unlikely, taking control of the oil will pay for the bill and more. by encouraging civil strife, killing and maiming the civil populace pretty soon there is no local populace to lay claim to their homeland. if you can wipe the populace from the face of the planet the oil is now yours, america has experience of genocidal programs in its formative years, iraq is more like business as usual. my prediction is that the iraqis of the main cities will be relocated "reserves" to the deserts (in makeshift camps). from a security perspective this is excellent, by slowly driving the people from their homes and out into the wastelands you reduce attacks on the army etc.. anyway i'll continue this thought some other time or maybe you can elaborate on it??
Well you're right, as already the Iraqis are fleeing their homes during this CIVIL WAR, going out into makeshift camps in the desert where they are being protected by militias. The country is being divided up right before our eyes and the US can do nothing about it. In fact our presence there exacerbates the problem. A divided Iraq is only natural, as the state of Iraq was a fabrication of the British in the first place. Once the country is divided in three, there maybe peace. But before that happens, many thousands more will die. I'm so glad this occupation has liberated Iraq from Saddam and the legacy of the British. Things are soooo much better now for Iraqi ppl. They can vote now! Of course they don't have a real effective government, but who cares? Now if they can only live long enough to make it to the poll booth, or better yet the market, they might live to see tomorrow.