Hi, Have tried nnDMT probably 5 or 6 times now and still don't feel as though i've hit 'breakthrough', though I did a hit tonight (0.05 dose) an I felt as though I'd done enough if not too much and it made me physically sick over myself leaving me with nausea and an uncomfortable chest for about 20 minutes. The first 3 hits I ever did were from a different extraction to the one I am smoking now, and I seem to remember the first extraction to be a little smoother and more 'fun', whereas the current extraction feels a little more 'uncomfortably intense' (though it may just be that I was so amazed by it the first few times I did it). The first extraction was also darker shade of yellow and slightly more sticky whereas this one is paler and drier. I seem to remember reading that an impure extraction can leave other chemicals which make for a less comfortable trip. Is it normal to gag and throw up whilst on a heavy dose, or is it likely that these effects are caused by an impure extraction?
If your spice isn't white......... and if you havn't brought the molecule down from alkaline pH............ you are ripping your lungs to shreds. Lye+solvents should never come in contact with a human being. Don't be lazy when it comes to chemistry.
This. Recrystallize if you have to. It's easy and well worth it. Just be warned that you will lose a lot of product, but it's nothing you want anyway.
OK, thanks for the advice though it has not really answered my questions... Firstly, I bought the extraction from a friend and I am not sure which tek he used - are you saying that if the spice is not a perfect white then I shouldn't smoke it? Also, I have no idea how to recrystallize - please could you link me to some information that explains the procedure properly? Lastly - Is is normal to gag during a strong trip? Thanks J
I don't think it's normal to gag on a strong trip. I've never experienced this or read about it. Non-white DMT does not necessarily mean there's solvents or lye in it, it more likely means there is plant material in it from the extraction. Ask you friend about the process. I personally only would use it from someone I trusted as meticulous and smart...and health conscious. If a proper solvent was used, then it will evaporate. I think the ammonia wash in, for instance, marsofolds tek, is used to wash away any lye that got through...although lye shouldn't dissolve in a proper solvent if done correctly. Re crystallization should help get any remaining plant material out, but not necessarily lye or solvent residue from the first time if it was done improperly. There is information about re-crystallization in this thread: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6679249 This is a recent version of marsofolds tek: http://forums.lycaeum.org/index.php?topic=2442.msg24734 I always found this interesting and amusing and informative: (How and why to get off) http://deoxy.org/gz_howy.htm People like the machine for smoking. (Google: DMT machine) There's a lot of debate. I personally like a glass chinese water pipe with no water, and setup with 2 screens, some ash, another screen, spice, and a screen on top. The shape of the bowl matters....a flat bottom is good with a hole in the middle. You can tilt it to the side so the liquified DMT does not go down the stem. It takes a while to get the hang of it...but when I have some...I'm able to get excellent hits almost every time. The main idea it to not burn the DMT, but to liquify and then vaporize it.
Nah, it doesn't have to be white, but it's much better if it is. Put your DMT in a Mason jar. Heat up some naptha in a hot water bath. Slowly pour hot naptha over the DMT until it all melts, or there's only red, gooey shit that's still solid. Take this and pour it into a Ziplock baggie. Let it go into the corner and you should see a couple layers separate. Poke a tiny hole in the corner, let the red layer (or whatever's on the bottom) drain out, then put the top layer back in your Mason jar. Throw it in the freezer for a night. In the morning, open the jar and use a knife or something to scrape the crystals off the sides. Put it back in the freezer for a few minutes. Set up another Mason jar with a coffee filter on top of it, held on by a rubber band. Quickly pour the solvent through the coffee filter. Your crystals will be left behind on the filter, and a tiny bit still in the jar for you to scrape out. Let it dry completely (might take 30-45 minutes or so), scrape up your crystals and smoke them in your pipe of choice. I reccomend The Machine. Not really common, but nothing to worry about. It's happened to me a couple times. There won't be solvents in it, for sure. Lye, maybe a little. But yellow spice more commonly means that it's DMT-N-Oxide. IMO, not really a problem, as it does almost exactly the same thing. It's not quite as potent as the white stuff, though. For more info on the spice of life, check out DMT-Nexus.com.
I've vomited from VERY high doses of vaporized DMT a few times. Everything was just spinning and twisting too much. It just felt like I smoked too much too fast. The urge to vomit would come just as soon as I exhaled my last hit. So Id stumble over to the toilet a vomit. Then I'd feel much better Once I vomited, I lay back on the bathroom floor, closed my eyes and had some of the craziest trips of my life.
