The true definition of an ethical vegan according to wikipedia is: "An ethical vegan (also known as a "moral vegetarian") is someone who not only follows a vegan diet but extends the philosophy into other areas of their lives, and opposes the use of animals for any purpose." So my question is how can a morally ethical vegan eat any food at all? Should they not become people who live on merely light? Animals grew the food, packaged the food, distributed the food, and ultimately prepared the food. According to the definition above they cannot use animals for any purpose. Human beings are animals (shocking news to many I know...) so if a human prepares the food, then they can not eat it. Correct?
Even when you take humans out of the equation, things are not much better, The very soil that the vegetables grow on is full of decomposing animal life, not to mention the tons of bone meal that we add. What about all the worms that aerate the soil and those poor worker bees who pollinated the plants in the first place. Unless they grow their vegetables in the garden, animal products are also used in the farm machinery and the fuel that runs them. Perhaps the best solution is to simply tell all the extremists to keep their mouths shut. In case they swallow a fly.
I observe a plant-based diet. I don't eat eggs or anything. No milk or anything made with dairy. No yogurt. But I can't get into the morality aspect of it (I'm not vegan, but still...). I guess I'm lost.
I disagree with the OP only because I'm a beautiful creation and not a monkey. But all the monkey folks out there yes you're just a filthy animal hehe.
I’m not vegan and I don’t hate on vegans, they’re cool with me. I’ve actually had some really good vegan meals.
I think that only makes sense if a human is being forced to prepare food. Theoretically if a pig demonstrated that it was capable of understanding about being eaten, and consented to it happily.. I wouldn't think it was a problem to eat that pig. They can't, and they suffer. I think the whole moral aspect of Veganism is about reducing/removing suffering, or else saving the planet because of climate change caused by the industry.
i don't like to hate on people who are Vegan but what i don't like are the ones that decide to go to any supermarkets and try and force their opinions down your throat about it. It's fine for you to go and be a vegan it's not for everyone else.
One of my funniest memories was the day that a guy (a friend of a friend) finally managed to find a drink that was completely free from animal products. After reading the label, I just could not resist mentioning that the coloring (cochineal) is produced by grinding Beatles of the same name. Watching him putting his fingers down his throat was so funny. Needless to say, he has avoided me ever since. I wonder how many vegans live by the motto, 'ignorance is bliss'. Perhaps it is time to casually mention to a few vegan girls that the same colorant is used in almost all red lipstick. Or better still mention it to the vegan guys before they head off for a night out. Now that would be cruel,!!!!!!!
A vegan asked me why does ballarat have wind farms? I told the vegan it was to get rid of the foul farts that the cows did. He was grossed out due to some farting cows.
IIRC this sect of Veganism was brought up in the Vegan forums awhile ago and I prompted the question about how do they approach spaying and neutering pets ? It wasn't exactly the topic but certainly not as far a detour as many of our threads veer off in to, but I was told to create my own thread to ask the question. I don't really care to create my own thread about it, so I guess this is as good a thread as any to open the question up again. Also going by that definition, the ethical vegan is inherently anti-intellectual, at least when it comes to the realms of biology, medicine, neuroscience, etc. Many scientific disciplines use animals in tests for better understanding functionality of certain aspects of the body and also the efficacy of drugs, foods, etc.
Plants have neurological functions, can feel pain, and are aware of what is going on around them. Just because it's a different awareness to what animals experience, doesn't make it nonexistent.
