Vegan

Discussion in 'The Future' started by Ostard, Mar 26, 2006.

  1. Ostard

    Ostard Member

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    In the future people become vegans?

     
  2. Greenluv90

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    probably everyone will become aware of their eating habits and change....or the opposite ppl will just get worse :( .......
     
  3. DancerAnnie

    DancerAnnie Resident Beach Bum

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    Nah...we'll all end up eating Soylent Green.
     
  4. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    no, i don't think so. we probably won't be doing that stupid beef/chicken mess anymore, but people will continue eating meat.
     
  5. Bilby

    Bilby Lifetime Supporter and Freerangertarian Super Moderator

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    While we still have vehicles that run on tyres I guess we will never be truely vegan.
     
  6. Ostard

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    I think that people will understand everyone in the future, they realize as it badly. In fact earlier trade in slaves was the normal phenomenon and nobody was surprised to it and very few people wished to release slaves, anybody and could not think that in the future there will be no slavery. Or when people burnt on a fire, it too considered normal. Such examples can be resulted long. Notwithstanding what now
    The majority of people eats corpses, I think that in then it will change also people which will live in the future will cease to eat animals and which they make products
     
  7. freakon

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    yeah, i think it is not the meat eating itself that is the issue, it is the way they are "produced", as a product..... look at the native tribes, they are like part of the food chain, hunting like any other animal.... NOW, that ain't possible.... so for sure, there is some real bad karma around meat eating. If you eat meat, you support the concentration camp vibe (the way animal live is the real suffering, not the dying itself, the dying goes relatively quick, but the the living is full of sadness and suffering, and when u eat meat, you support that vibe). go veg/vegan....
     
  8. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    i definitely have concerns about that. but our meat production practices are also HORRENDOUS for the environment. the land laid waste, the awful biproducts, the pollution. it's horrible. but to be honest, the raising and producing of our vegetable products isn't much better. it's running the animals out of their migration lands, and it's just gonna get worse as the land gets covered up with houses. there'll be less land for the production of food, and so we'll move even MORE into migratory lands. i'm a hunter, i get my cheapest tags and best meat off the soy fields hereabouts, but i don't for one second forget that we're impinging upon their territory to raise our own food, and killing them for eating too much of it. it's pretty heartbreaking. only some terrible mass extinction of humans will help them now.
     
  9. Domesticated

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    I highly doubt it. At the very least, under no circumstances (except for starvation) will I become a vegan. Meat is the most important part of my diet.
     
  10. Megara

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    i doubt it unless there was some tyrannical government that enforced it. Why would we become vegan? It is so extreme. Most people wouldn't want to live like that
     
  11. freakon

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    hey, the future will show you how WRONG U R..... you can start with a small change
     
  12. themnax

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    population pressure will favor the nutrient production effeciency vs land consumption of vegan and vegitarianism, so the number and ratio of 'vegans' will increase.

    but the nature of nature is diversity and nothing is ever entirely one way. not even this. the growing of delicious meat tissue without central nervous systems as a food source could also be developed. i certaily hope the day will come when it is.

    the day will also come when human population implodes, though the details of the causes and mechanism of this are not yet clear. war only has this effect, when it has it at all in the very short term, the longer term consiquences tend to be just the opposite, as witnessed by my own generation. so war isn't it.

    either man or nature will somehow come up with or do something that will lower human fertility. when that happens this question will become almost moot.

    when the day comes we are forced, even with tecnology, to live closer to the earth, our diets universaly, well contain a much larger percentage of plant matter then they do in developed countries now.

    even with no greater, or even lower, percentage of individuals, persuing a totaly vegan lifestyle.

    trasnportation costs as fossle fuel econiomies dwindle will almost certainly play a major roll in this.

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  13. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    i think we'll have such a massive die off from our living practices that population pressure will eventually be a non-issue. our production methods are abhorrent, wasteful and chock full of pollution. people WILL die. and those who are able to grow their own and supplement with a more reasonable meat sourse will probably do best. an animal capable of eating and living in areas that humans cannot use to cultivate their own food are invaluable sources of otherwise unavailable nutrients.
     
  14. SageDreamer

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    We might not see too many people going as far as becoming vegan, but more people will take steps in that direction. When you look at the grain and water needed to raise beef cattle, it seems like it will become awfully expensive for so many of us to rely so heavily on meat in our diets.
     
  15. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    our current consumption of meat is WAY off the charts. it's not natural or healthy. people who wanna claim that people have been eating meat since the dawn of time and therefore eating meat is natural are kinda missing the point. the point being that we're consuming more than any human beings have since we arrived.
     
  16. bassplaya

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    most definitly not
     
  17. themnax

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    i have no way of measuring this but i know we are eating waaay more then hunting and gathering societies ever did or could.

    and i'm absolutely positive we'd, most of us, myself included, would be eating way less if we all had to butcher it ourselves instead of bying it shrink wrapped in the grocery store.

    even for those who didn't find this work replusive, the shere amount of labour invoulved would alone reduce the rate of consumption.

    i did help butcher a deer once, and that was just a deer, not a whole cow, and i was only helping, and there is, no ifs, ands or buts about it, one heck of a lot of work invoulved if you don't want to risk getting sick, or even if you do.

    how much is too much or too little? i think part of that may be subjective. and we have been eating meat, as a species i mean, all along. but i think a far more important issue then how much of any one thing we get in our diet is how much or how little diversity.

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  18. ElChivato

    ElChivato SeNioR MeMBeR

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    no, i doubt it.
     
  19. Bumble

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    I believe that we will eventually become vegetarians, but never vegans. Eventually as our population grows we will not be able to eat meat because we will not have enough resources, but we will have enough animals to supply milk for us.
     
  20. Bilby

    Bilby Lifetime Supporter and Freerangertarian Super Moderator

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    But what about the two thirds of worlds land that is not arable?
     

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