Using shrooms to overcome social anxiety/gain confidence/kill insecurity?

Hey dudes.

I've never done shrooms but I'm kinda considering it now for psychological reasons.

For as long as I can remember I've been extremely self-conscious, stemming from a lot of general self-hate/insecurity. I don't have any real reason to be insecure (not worried about my looks or anything obvious like that), but it's reached the point now where I'm basically just very insecure about being insecure.

There's no logical basis for it whatsoever, and at a logical level I know it's all bullshit.

I guess you could call it "social anxiety disorder" though I'm strangely totally cool making speeches and stuff. I do fine in "structured" social situations (i.e. job interview, as long as I don't have to crack jokes), but at parties I fucking suck. I've been able to learn how to "fake it" but it SUCKS and makes me feel empty inside. I hate having to think in social situations.

It's intepersonal shit I can't handle. I try obviously but it comes off awkward. Is driving me fucking crazy cause I know it's all in my head and is all bullshit.

Now, thanks to a few crazy experiences I've had pushing myself (I went clubbing for 7 months, 4 nights a week in attempts to "get over it"---dead sober and chasing hotties the whole time) I HAVE experienced what it feels like to be "normal", anxiety free, no self consciousness, a chill mother fucker basically, without the anxiety, what I feel is my real personality. I know I'm CAPABLE of it, but unfortunately my old thought patterns seems to be DEEPLY ingrained in there.

I'm at the point where I'm truly desperate, I've tried nearly everything, and don't want to just get drugged up on anti-depressants for the rest of my life.

That's where shrooms come in. I've had SEVERAL people tell me they had incredible "spritiual experiences" where after they felt much more centered, PERMANENTLY. Like it removed a lot of the bullshit thought patterns for them. One of my friends I was talking to who went through a big change (nice guy >>> chill badass) attributed it largely to a shroom trip.

Any thoughts? I know it's a gamble and it could make me worse and all but honestly, I don't think it will, because I already have "peeled back the layer of BS" so to speak a few times, I just need something to tip me over the edge. Plus I think it's worth the risk. My life is dogshit right now because of this stuff (even though my circumstances are great, it's just mental bullshit)

And is it possible it could change me permanentally? MJ is great for social anxiety but obviously has no long term effects. (it makes me paranoid but only in a funny way and not because of other people)

EDIT: Also, do you think LSD or shrooms is better for a first attempt at beating this?

 

mushrooms

high dose

 

Yes. The fungus could help you.

They can help you see reality, and once you have glimpsed that you will never be the same. For me, those permanent changes have all been very, very positive. For some people, they are not.

Best of luck.

 

It really helps but you have to participate in it. I really can relate, I hate crowds and even medium sized groups of people. Makes me nervous and anxious. I'm more of a lone wolf person which probably explains why I never meet other trippers here in hawaii. I don't smoke weed with anyone either. That's kinda lame but that's how it is.

 

Should I do it alone/with people? In the forest or in a room?

I've heard people get better results alone since they can focus on the experience entierly but I'm a bit afraid because I've heard sometimes people go apeshit and my dad scared me telling me some kid he knew killed himself while on shrooms without a sitter.

Granted, he wants to dissuade me from doing it at all (though he's coming around more now because he understands I've tried everything else), but he's not lying to me about it either.

Is there any way to guarantee an "ego death" type experience with shrooms or is it basically just luck?

EDIT: And how do I "participate in it"?

 

you cant guarantee ego death, but a high dose is necessary to even have a chance. At least an 8th plus. Whether you do it alone is up to you, but in my experience people dont flip out nearly as often as our parents and health class teachers would have us believe. If you have to, write 'youre on mushrooms' on the back of your hand, so if it gets out of control, you can remind yourself that its only a trip.

Furthermore, I dont think you should go into a mushrooms experience with the goal of losing your anxiety. Its really distracting to try to stay on one topic on mushrooms, its better to allow your mind to let go, and for the mushrooms to show you what it wants. Ive heard many people tell me that it freaks them out to think about their lives, and they have to try not to focus on it, which to me seems completely absurd, that there would be forbidden thoughts anywhere in a trip, but thats how some people are.

I had (still have) somewhat severe anxiety a while back. the thing to remember is that everyone has it, even that badass mutherfucker over there, with the hot chick in his lap. Dont think youre the only one, most people get anxious at parties, thats why they drink. Next time your in that situation, try looking around, and seing who else looks like they are feeling insecure. You might be surprised.

If you want to try mushrooms, at least listen to terence McKenna first, to give you an idea of what you should be going for. Terence mckenna - How To Take Psychedelics Pt.1

 

i dont know if its just cuz this is the shroom board or what, but i dont get why everyone is telling this kid to eat mushrooms (especially at high doses)

i think all he really needs is 2 fat tabs. pick a day where your free for 10-12 hours. invite some buddies over and just chill and smoke ciggs all day ahaha

 

Yeah it seems like especially in this situation they may be of help, but like the above poster said you will only get ego death from larger doses, and NOT from a medium 2 gram dose.

Don't hold back on the peak and try to be yourself, remember that it is you will HAVE to let go of everything you've EVER known, or else youll be forcing yourself in a bad trip trying to accomplish the obvious. Remember that you'll be sober afterwards and you won't be like that forever (you may want to be tripping forever, that's how I've felt during alot of my trips)

Now about the set and setting, it depends. On the come up and before the trip, don't have that in your mind that "these are gonna fix all your problems" and especially on the come up don't try and keep that in your head the whole time, or it'll get you distracted. Just go with the flow on the come up and try to keep yourself in a good mood (this is where having someone there, tripping of course) would help alot, becuase I've noticed where your alone on come ups there can be alot of anxiety. Now once your peaking, start thinking about it and who knows how much the fungi will help you, probably alot.

Now about the setting, being in a forest would probably put you in a much better mood (nature will give you something sitting in a room can't), but just make sure being in that forest wont make you get paranoid or anxious (other people in the forest), and if you do it in a forest it would be wise to bring a sitter (who's a good friend and who wont laugh at you when your tripping hard or be like "d00d ur trippin balls!") and make sure they'll have some supplies such as food and drinks in a backpack, becuase I've noticed that when I come down I get insanely hungry.
So basically in my opinion I'd recommend the forest completely if you wanna get alot out of these shrooms.

Good luck my friend, definitely tell us how it goes:cheers2:

 

shrooms will destroy whatever confidence you have left

 

You say that with confidence!

 

What? Explain.

 

i think he means that this dude is already low ego. the shrooms might amplify that thinking. i still think he should dose acid tho

 

acid is for fun/partytime

shrooms is for going deep introspective


this is just what they are more geared for, i have switched it up

but for acid there is alot of energy and wanting to go places and do shit

and with mushrooms i am content with staying in one place

not to mention the length

 

I had the exact type of spiritual centering experience you're looking for, and it happened to me on half an eighth of really nice cubes, mixed with a E pill of high quality taken 2 hours after dosing (so I started coming up on E as I was peaking on the cubes). Do it with someone you trust and is a part of your life, the connection you will make will be incredible.

For about a month and a half I had completely beaten my social anxiety, was able to be the life of the parties I was at instead of looking at my shoes, trying to force myself to talk to people. A year and a half later, although I've lost the "crisp perfection" of the afterglow of that trip, I'm an infinitely more mature and capable person than I was before the trip, in my opinion solely because of realizations I made while tripping. I still have social anxiety, but it's half the demon it once was.

 

LSD is your better bet. Either way though, this isn't something you go into with a "game plan" and come out of with a "success" or a "fail". You are going on a long journey my friend, and you may grow as a person and get over this or you may grow as a person and not get over this or you may not even grow as a person.

But don't think shrooms/lsd is a "oops i have a mental condition better pop 2 of these!"

 

lol
WTF

 

whats so fuckin funny. acid is fun, party at festivals, thats true

 

it's fuckin funny because it's retarded.

 

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The most simple way I can put this into words - anyone who uses acid to have fun at parties is a douche bag, and will eventually be subjected to the humiliation and suffering of the universe when they actually trip for the first time.