Unlocking 'Y.H.W.H' + ''Jehovah'' code! The puzzle of their meaning and reality!

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This is what I found in a website; I will copy and paste a part of it and I'll add some few comments, BTW: I read it in a hurry and I didn't check regarding some information, actually, I posted it as a preface to my thread (ALLELUIA! Allah's name in the Bible! Textually, literally! Photostat (Eid's gift to y )but I separated them but they are really so correlated and interrelated, so after you read it move to that thread.​

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There is no nation or language group on earth who does not know God by some name. This knowledge was given by the Creator Himself through the lips of His chosen messengers.​

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Though all theology (knowledge of God) originated with God, mankind played fast and loose with those pure and holy concepts, adding frills and adornments where no embellishments was needed - it despoiled the language. In the words of Mrs. Ellen G. White, a "prophetess" of the 7th Day Adventist Movement, in her Bible Commentary it is said: ​

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"LEARNED MEN HAD IN SOME INSTANCES CHANGED THE WORDS, THINKING THAT THEY WERE MAKING IT PLAIN, WHEN IN REALITY THEY WERE MYSTIFYING THAT WHICH WAS PLAIN"​

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* JEHOVAH​

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Astonishing as it may sound, it is an admitted fact that prior to the sixteenth century, the word "Jehovah," was unheard of. Whenever the origin of this word appeared in its true Hebrew form in Jewish Scriptures Yet, Huh, Wav, Huh; or Y.H.W.H. these four letters were preceded by a substitute word "Adonai," to warn the reader that the following word was not to be articulated. The Jews took meticulous care in repeating this exercise in their "Book of God" six thousand, eight hundred and twenty-three times - interpolating the words "Adonai" or "Elohim." They sincerely believed that this awesome name of God was never to be pronounced. This prohibition was no ordinary affair: it called for a penalty of death on one who dared to utter it, and this taboo has been more successful than all the "DO's" and "DON'T's" of the Ten Commandments put together.​

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BTW: Yahweh , Elohim, Eloah, 'El, 'El-'Elohe-Yisra'el etcè are God's names in the bible. ​

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Please click here if you want to know about more other names of God in the Bible plus you will find there these names which I have mentioned above​

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* Jehovah and the NT​

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If Jehovah is the name of God Almighty, and if the 27 Books of the New Testament were inspired by Him, then it is an anomaly of the highest order that He (Jehovah) signally failed to have His Own Name recorded in "His Word" (N.T.) the Christian addition to the Jewish Bible. The Christians say that they have in their possession over twenty-four thousand so-called "originals" of their Holy Writ in the Greek language, and yet not a single parchment has "Jehovah" written in it. Curiously this "name of God" (?) has been replaced by the Greek words ky'ri.os and the.os', which mean 'Lord' and 'God.' Yet, miracle of miracles - Alleluya! - no devil or saint has been able to eliminate the word "ALLAH" from the so-called New Testament of the Christiansè (I will write a new thread regarding this)​

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* tetragrammation!​

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Why not for a change ask him (one of Jehovah's Witnesses group), a question or two. Ask him where he got the word Jehovah from? He will surely reply - "From the Holy Bible." What does it say? Does it spell out the word J-e-h-o-v-a-h? "No," he will reply. "There is a 'tetragrammaton' in the Bible from which the word Jehovah is derived." What is a tetragrammaton? The Jehovah's Witness replies, "Y H W H !" "No!" "What I want to know from you is, what does the word tetragrammaton mean?"…"Tetra," in Greek means FOUR, and "grammaton," means LETTERS. It simply means "a four letter word."​

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Can you read into Y H W H the word Jehovah? I cannot. "No!", says the Jehovah's Witness, "we ought to add vowels to these four consonants to produce the sound. Originally, both Hebrew and Arabic were written without the vowel signs. The native of each language was able to read if even without those vowels. Not so the outsider, for whose benefit the vowels were invented.​

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* "J" ! ​

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Let us add the vowels as the "Witness" suggests. YHWH becomes YeHoWaH. Juggle as you like but you can never materialise Jehovah! Ask him, from which hat he drew his "J". He will tell you that "this is the 'popular' pronunciation from the 16th century." The exact sound of the four letters YHWH is known neither to the Jews nor to the Gentiles, yet he is ramming JEHOVAH down every ones throats. The European Christians have developed a fondness for the letter "J" They add J's where there are no Jays. Look!​

 

There is no end to the Westerner's infatuation for the letter "J." Now in the busy streets of South Africa, he charges people who carelessly cross them for "jay-walking," but nobody charges him for converting Jewish (Yehudi) names into Gentile names.
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By the way after looking at the above chart: The bible in the Arabic version translates Jesus to íÜÓæÚ not to ÌÜíÒÓ plus Joseph to íÜæÓÝ not to ÌÜæÒíÝ etc, they use '' Y íÜ '' not '' J ÌÜ'', here are some links for two examples from the Arabic version, Jesus=íÓæÚ , Joseph=íæÓÝ
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The letters Y H W H occur in the Hebrew (Jewish) Scriptures 6. 823 times, and it occurs in combination with the word "Elohim;" 156 times in the booklet called Genesis alone. This combination YHWH/ELOHIM has been consistently translated in the English Bible as "Lord God," "Lord God," Lord God," ad infinitum.
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* (COMMON ORIGIN)
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What is YHWH; and what is ELOHIM? Since the Jews did not articulate the word YHWH for centuries, and since even the Chief Rabbis would not allow the ineffable to be heard, they have forfeited the right to claim dogmatically how the word is to be sounded. We have to seek the aid of the Arab to revive Hebrew, In every linguistic difficulty recourse has to be made to Arabic, a sister language, which has remained alive and viable. Racially and linguistically, the Arabs and the Jews have a common origin, going back to Father Abraham =)
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Note the startling resemblance between the languages, very often the same sounding words carry identical meaning in both.
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YHWH or Yehova or Yahuwa all mean the very same thing. "Ya" is a vocative and an exclamatory particle in both Hebrew and Arabic, meaning Oh! And "Huwa" or "Hu" means He, again in both Hebrew and Arabic. Together they mean Oh He! So instead of YHWH ELOHIM, we now have Oh He! ELOHIM.​

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What do you think? Before this move to the thread: ALLELUIA! Allah's name in the Bible! Textually, literally! Photostat (Eid's gift to you (Muslim members)​

YoursSincerely,​

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CatStevens​

 

Who cares? If no one's allowed to say the actual word, than every other name we have for god is man-made and just a title, like Lord or King. "Allah" just means "God" or "Lord," right?

I figure, as long as we all know that Jehova, or Lord, or Christ, or Allah, refers to God, then there's no problem. And I'm pretty sure people know those words are referring to God.

 

Check this out


http://www.sacred-texts.com/tarot/tob/tob04.htm

 

your posts are too long. what I know of the subject is that the Jews found God's name too holy to say it. It comes directly from the ten commandmenst, where it says that you shall not use God's name in vain. The jews somewhat hastily concluded that in that case it's better to not use it at all. About Jahweh. In Hebrew, the letters also are a number, and if you add these from the name Jahweh up, you get the number 7, the sacred number. And the Hebrew language has 22 letters instead of 26, but no vowels, so that's correct.

 

TrippinBTM
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Allah is the name of his majesty of (God), Muslims don't say God, but if they say Allah others will not understand. Sheikh Abdur-Rahaman ibn Nasir as-Sadi wrote in his book '' the explanation of the beautiful and perfect names of Allah'' regarding the explanation of Allah's name: Allah: he is the one and only Deity, the one who is worshipped and the one who deserves to be worshipped by the whole of his creation… Quraan, Allah stated: Allah! There is none worthy of worship but he, the living, the sustaining…plus my thread:
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I explained its secret, and the conclusion was: The secret of ''Allah's name''!
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The secret is, the sentence in Arabic: there is no god but Allah is found completely in his name Allah!! i.e. , in the Arabic language: with Allah's name's letters you can write the sentence (there is no God but Allah)
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Jews prohibited it or made it forbidden to pronounce it, read my comments on (Kiss_the_sky)'s post.
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YoursSincerely,
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CatStevens
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BlackBillBlake
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They are explaining it as YHVH, my thread about YHWH
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YoursSincerely,
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CatStevens
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kiss_the_sky ​

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I summarized it, and mostly when I summarize my posts or responses others don't get what I meant!​

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Yup, and they have to explain whether they consider it too holy to say with their own consideration, or God told them that and that they actually don't know how to pronounce it rightly, the former Jews didn't pronounce it for long time so they forgot it in the course of time etc.​

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God has other names as well! Why this name exactly shouldn't be pronounced! Or the Jews are doing the same with all other names of God? And when God said: you shall not use God's name in vain, myself I didn't understand it that way at all!!! Did God said: my name is too holy to say it!! And if we shall not use God's name in vain it means like that, so when it is considered not using it in vain. ​

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They should base every prohibition or conclusion on a biblical verse!​

Quraan:And say not concerning that which your tongues put forth falsely: '' this is lawful and this is forbidden" so as to invent lies against Allah​

Deuteronomy:…And thou shalt do that which is right and good in the sight of the LORDè not in the sight of us or anyone???​

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Now, Yahweh or Jahweh, Y or J, I think it blasphemy to change his name! However, I didn't get what you mean regarding the letters and number 7. ​

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YoursSincerely,​

CatStevens​

 

It's the same thing YHVH or YHWH- the Hebrew letters are yod, he, vau, and he again -the only difference being in the system of latinization used. The same thing happens with the sanskrit language - sometimes a V is used and sometimes a W - there are various systems of representing other languages with different alphabets in English.
There is no hebrew letter other than Vau that can be represented by either W or V.

 

yeah but the im in elohim makes it plural.. its like we're all "I AM" and thats where gods power comes in.. tis er'thing=light.. love
lovin'light
adam

 

BlackBillBlake
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My comment was: They are explaining it as YHVH, my thread about YHWH
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If I will explain it as YHWH then I can get the meaning of it that because some of the Arabic words are so similar to the Aramaic and Hebrew words and grammar and you can find this clearer in my thread Allah's name in the Bible! Textually, literally! Photostat
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YoursSincerely,
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CatStevens
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yonosoymedico
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I don't know if you read the whole thread that because I wrote at the end of it:

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And in the beginning of it:
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You will find an explanation of Elohim there; here is the link Allah's name in the Bible! Textually, literally! Photostat
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If you are talking about '' I AM THAT I AM'' here is a link read post 116
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YoursSincerely,
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CatStevens
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As I've explained YHWH and YHVH are one and the same. Niether V nor W is a letter in Hebrew, Arabic or Aramaic. The letter is the Hebrew Vau - which is represented in English by either V or W.


Vav or Vau.

 

BlackBillBlake
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But, does it remain the same in pronouncing whether I use V or W?
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YoursSincerely,
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CatStevens
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It would be the same.

 

I see!

YoursSincerely,
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CatStevens
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It's all a question of using written symbols or letters of one language or alphabet to represent another.

If I wanted to translate this YHWH into Chinese, I'd have to select a Chinese character to represent each letter. Some Chinese scholars might select one set of letters, an different group might select different letters - for reasons best known to themselves.

But if you look for example at the way Chinese is transliterated into English, you'll see that the system is changing - Mao Tse Tung is now Mao Zedong - but the Chinese still write and pronounce it the same.
Similarly, the systems for representing other languages vary.

 

BlackBillBlake
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I think they should choose the closest letter to that alphabet regarding the intact way of pronouncing it! The difference between V and W is huge! Seven, sewen! If somebody will tell me I have sewen cars, I might don't understand him!
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And what does it mean?
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YoursSincerely,
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CatStevens
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For starters.. Allah was also the name of The Moon God (Hubal?) and I think one of his daughters (as in the ones spoken about by Muhammed in his Satanic Verses) which was named Allat.
It may be 'Il Allat' or 'The Goddess'.

Anyways.. Arabic is a descendant of Hebrew so Im not surprised if there are a lot of similarities.
Even Muhammeds Father was a Pagan worshipper who had 'Allah' in his name I recall.
Must have been refering to the Moon God 'Allah' but not the reformed monotheistic version Muhammed himself taught Allah should be revealed as.