Understanding LSD

I hope some of you younger trippers will check this out. I just want to explain some things about the getting and using of LSD. I will try to put it into plain english, so hopefully there are more "My mind was blown" stories than "i'll never do that again"s.

Please do not think of LSD as a drug. If you are using LSD to get fucked up and loose your grip on reality the enjoyment will be short-lived. Consider, after you get done tripping what do you have to show for it?
Fond memories?
The essence of LSD is unexplainable and yet everyone feels the need to express the sensation. The only way to make someone understand the way you have felt is they must also eat acid. It is natural to want to spread the message. Not everyone should.

LSD is not going anywhere. If you want to try LSD you must first be friends with someone who knows acid. If a kid walks up to me and asks for LSD, I will tell him I have no idea about the stuff. If I have a friend that I know has never tripped, I'd want to dose him. Its an honor to introduce someone to lucy. The dosed person will always remember you. You are no longer frineds, you're FAMILY.

When you eat LSD, the conditions need to be right, and if youre bein looked out for by your family you know things will be fine. You will be able to relax and trip out. While tripping, you might think any number of crazy things. The trick is to indulge your crazy ideas. Discuss them with your family.

When tripping with your family, you might notice that it seems everyone can see into you and tell if you are lying. Its true. LSD is a truth serum. If you are on acid, and you lie, other people on acid will know. Your GUT will tell you NOT to lie, and when you go against your natural instinct, people on acid can sense it. If you are a FAKE person, you wont be hanging out with the LSD crowd.
Acid will make you look at things different, particularly yourself.

Remember these key things.
Be Honest
Love
Everything is connected
Family.

 

If I may add a theory to the pot.

Look around you right now. How many things are moving - your limbs, maybe you have a fan or blinds that are blowing in the wind. But your practically surrounded by stationary objects - walls, tables, chairs and things. When you go outside how many things are moving. You could say tree's, birds, cars, people and clouds. What does that represent to you? To me it means life. Movement signifies something is living - its experiencing existence. People have natural feelings of empathy and love for other living things - we would much rather play with a dog than a rock and are more happy in a grassy meadow with beautiful scenery than an office cube. Still though, in that outside environment the majority of your vision is dominated by stationary objects - roads, buildings and trash cans. These things are stagnate and lifeless yet are the governing force in our societies aesthetic make up. They also take out the factor of time - if you see something moving you have a guide of time, as appose to something that doesn’t move. That can apply to music as well, I think its fusion to our souls is because it is the gate keeper of time. If you were siting in square white room with nothing in it and no sound, at what pace would you know time was going – by the consistency of your thoughts or the speed of your eyes? Music gives us beat, a perception of the perpetual momentum of time and its this idea that creates our attraction to music not just because of its enjoyable sound but because of what it creates by not been there.

LSD however changes what we see. It creates a 360 degree view of motion. Everything moves with more color, inconsistency, dimension and imagination than ever before. This complete view of motion in anything and everything you experience thus creates the perspective of everything been alive. If EVERYTHING in your vision and around you is alive and living in existence with you in a way never before experienced, it naturally creates an out of this world bond with you and your immediate environment and in the greater context. Obviously acid creates chemically induced euphoria and ecstasy but I believe its this perspective that plays a major part of the psychological effect it has on your feelings and attractions to reality due to the overstimulated empathy and love for life, which you percieve as all around you. Maybe this has something to do with the understanding of oneness after a trip which works on the spiritual level and theory but may simply be by coincidence of interactions. I dunno - it may be crazy talk, it may not.

 

Crazy but true! The chemical does not create the euphoria. It comes naturally when the mind is fascinated and amazed.

Acid causes us to inspect what we usually overlook, externally and within. You see the patterns, there is a continuity to EVERYTHING.
trick is to go with the flow

 

ow, I thought it was chemical as well

 

My thoughts:

I took it to get fucked up and had a blast every time. You don't have to over-think it, of you don't want to.

 

Yeah I've had friends who say it was just sorta crazy...no clarity, just a phantasmagorical blur. These are also the ones that told me that lsd is the devil's drug and I should never take it...not that the two traits are bonded together by any means within people who take lsd just for fun.

I think if there was one thing that is useful to be remembered by anyone about to take acid, it's that most of us think we live in a real world, and everyone else is never even confronted with the question. They should realize beforehand that they are just as artificial as the drug they're about to take. Everything they know of values and acceptable society is a total manmade sham, established long before they were born....it's very difficult to question the world in which we were developed. But if a person does that beforehand, the things they're exposed to on Lsd won't make them think "wow this seems very real, but it totally challenges everything I've ever known, but my world can't be a sham, so this must be a devil drug..." Instead, they'll think, "this is genuine enlightenment coming from a valuable source within me, and it gives me clarity about the contradictions of the world I knew before."

You can liken it to E.T. the movie. The alien was in a world that he knew was not his own, even though it was the only world in existence to the ppl that inhabited it. He had to devise some artificial yet efficacious means to contact the world he knew was real but was temporarily invisible, so he made that contraption with the electronic alphabet toy and the fork with the twine. Pretty crude and artificail stuff, but it was the only way he could contact his world with the means he had at his immediate disposal.

So it was with us and the use of a drug that's perceived as being artificial...yes it's an unnatural act to gain enlightenment through such a medium, but we are so wholly unnatural to begin with. We have to improvise with chemicals that access parts of our brain that our world has not taught us to access in natural ways. It also reminds me of someone's hipforum's sig, something like: "[lsd is] like windex in a spaceship of mucked up windows..."

 

yah that is good way to approach lsd

ive mostly got my mind wrapped around the fact that everything is alive and that I'm really no different than any other person, animal or inanimate object... the thing that I just can't get my mind around is just the fact we exist... that still just blows my mind, like 'damn we exist, huh' it's so weird

...and if only I could get an understanding of how the whole interdimensional travel works as well, my mind really seems to be fighting that for some reason

 

you just kept missing the point. good for you!


you dont have to be a good person if you dont want to, but being good has its rewards and a fuck it all attitude comes at a cost.

if an lsd trip changes who you are then what happens to people who take lsd to get fucked up? (hint- the answer is in the question)

 

Salmon has a point if you think about it. Psychedellic drugs only became a problem for me when I started believing their was something 'more' than what really is. (I mean there was 'more', but not in the literal sense of beyond what is perceived through the six senses (one could never literally perceive such)). Eventually you will learn that what you can perceive, you've already have had the ability to perceive!! - it was just deep down in your psyche waiting for it's activation (such activation can also be achieved through meditation). If LSD gives you an insight, that is nothing that wasn't there before hand, you just did not have the ability to see things that clearly, as you were disillusioned.

I see the OP's point however.. that we are surrounded by many close minded people who overlook the potential within psychedellic drugs, basically considering them as nonexistant. Though, that just means that they need the enlightenment themselves to see that there is much more to life than what they can already see as obvious.



Never overlook the obvious. What is obvious however, will be different for everybody. What is obvious, can be changed through the use of LSD.

 

and how can you have insight before you had the insight?

if you didn't see it before then you didn't see it before. to say that because you can see it now means that you could always see it is just ridiculous.

swoosh - what are you really trying to say because although you may think that you just made some deeply interesting point all you did is demonstrate that you have very little insight when it comes to insight.

 

3xi,
People aren't born knowing everything they need to know to make the right decision (obviously). There are times, or maybe I'm just basing this on myself, where people could definitely use personal guidance. Psychedellic experiences and meditation help us find the answers within ourselves -- because if you think about it, what usually helps solve our problems is based somewhere along the lines of logic or common sense. My idea of what 'can' and 'may' be 'obvious'. That is what I was trying to say when I brought up my point of overlooking the obvious, or pretty much what 'is' obvious. And ofcourse this is different for everybody, which is why we may not be on the same page. (But we can always make that possible with more explaining, right?)

"what are you really trying to say because although you may think that you just made some deeply interesting point all you did is demonstrate that you have very little insight when it comes to insight"

I hope I explained things better above.

 

Sounds alright to me, 3xi.

 

i just wanted to say thank you for this post. I am hopefully trying some LSD this summer, and i'm both nervous and excited. the person is very eager to dose me, i hope its a good trip.

 

Thanks for reading! I know you'll have the time of your life.

I like the dialogue here, some good perspectives! I hope folks continue to add. Theres a LOT of knowledge here in the LSD forum and sometimes people dont know the right questoins to ask.

3xi said if an lsd trip changes who you are then what happens to people who take lsd to get fucked up? (hint- the answer is in the question) Man I love the way you put that, its important and true.
Its pretty funny when you think about it, LSD tends to give you exactly what you ask from it. It'll answer your questions in metaphor, the rest is up to you. The enlightenment people seek does not come from the drug but the seeking.

 

"These psychedelic substances cause hysterical psychoses in people who have not taken them..."

- Timothy Leary

 

Im pretty sure LSD only changes who you are if you let it.
What salmon said makes sense. Not everyone takes LSD for the same reasons, and not everyone has to use it the way we use it.

To each their own.

 

whatever your brain feels is accentuated 100%

so it isnt wise to do acid at a beer party.

 

I have a quick question for you guys, didnt wanna start a new topic

on acid, can you have normal convos with people, if you are used to the trip? Like would I be able to talk to someone online, make posts on a forum, etc, and act normal if I was on acid?

or do you just trip balls? lol

 

you will not be able to do any of that. if you get good acid, you will not be able to read.

 

Will I trip too much if I take two hits....