UN set to vote on Israel barrier

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Mui, Jul 20, 2004.

  1. Mui

    Mui Senior Member

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    UN set to vote on Israel barrier7/20/2004 9:00:00 PM GMT [​IMG]
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    A Palestinian man watches the construction works of Israel's 'security' barrier in the West Bank
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    Source: BBC

    The UN General Assembly is set to vote on a motion calling on Israel to respect a world court ruling to tear down part of its West Bank separation barrier, with European support still up in the air.

    Correspondents say Arab delegates are trying to ensure backing for the resolution from the European Union.

    The resolution was drafted after the International Court of Justice announced the barrier was illegal.

    The 191-nation General Assembly has no power to push countries to act on its recommendations, but the issue could then go to the Security Council which theoretically has the power to impose economic sanctions.

    The Palestinians were hoping that European Union support would give strength to the assembly resolution which, though not legally binding, reflects a consensus of international opinion.

    The Palestinian Authority has said it will delay pushing for a Security Council resolution until after the U.S. presidential elections in November.

    Israel still insist on its false claims that the barrier is meant to protect Israelis from Palestinian fighters. Opponents say the barrier, which juts into the West Bank, is a trick to seize land and complicates moves to create a Palestinian state.

    Israel says it will comply with an Israeli Supreme Court ruling ordering the 640 km (400 mile) barrier to be re-routed around Jerusalem, but has vowed to carry on with construction.


     
  2. Mui

    Mui Senior Member

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    sanction those bitches! The israeli empire must go down!
     
  3. LickHERish

    LickHERish Senior Member

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    Don't hold your breath. The General Assembly votes have even less value to the Israelis than those of the SC and given the 60+ resolutions Israel has ignored over the 35 years (give or take a few) there is no chance the zionists will change their behaviour or their long held agenda of achieving the restoration of "Greater Israel" by hook or by crook.
     
  4. GrievousAngel

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    I hope it fails to pass. I'm in total support of Israel.
     
  5. BraveSirRubin

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    I truly hope it fails to pass.

    It's probable for it to pass and head onto the security council, where it will be vetoed by the US, no matter which president wins.

    Right now, most European countries have criticized the international court's ruling. So I do expect them to vote against the motion.

    The motion would be powerless anyhow, Israel swore to complete the barrier, and so it will. It's a big step for us.

    The General Assembly has no power in the Middle East, it never had any to begin with. Even when the UN legaly established Israel as a state, the arab countries did not accept it.

    Anyhow, we shall see tonight, hopefully, the world will ignore the internanal court's biased ruling.
     
  6. MaxPower

    MaxPower Kicker Of Asses

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    The UN is powerless by their own doing. They stood by waving their dicks in the air while N. Korea developed nukes, they bitched and moaned during the War in Iraq but did nothing, they have a history of ignoring genocide and injustice, and their precious Declaration of the Rghts of Man is being shat on daily by countries everywhere. Plus, Israel's army could beat the shit out of anyone who tried to take down the wall forcibly. Even if this does pass, it would be meaningless.
     
  7. Mui

    Mui Senior Member

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    international courts biased ruling my ass... how the fuck is this wall a good thing? This wall is a fucking disgrace... and we prided ourselves on bringing down the berlin wall... this isnt much fucking different...after this concentration camps are next... its just further fucking segregation...

    all the fascists come out at once i spose.

    but i guess its natural for americans to be in support of israel... another country born with the history of stealing others land and than mass genocide of the natives who lived there.


    get israels dick out your mouth,

    Mui.
     
  8. BraveSirRubin

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    The wall separates Palestine from Israel, bring it closer to becoming a state of its own.

    The international court report NEVER mentioned the main fuction of the wall... keeping terrorist suicide bombers out of Israel. It's working, by the way, there hasn't been a suicide bombing in a long time.

    This is not Berlin, the same country it is not the same people that are being separated...

    Why do you assume i'm from the US... I'm actually an Israeli citizen, so... I know what I'm talking about, take it into acount.
     
  9. BraveSirRubin

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    Well, I did expect this... the UN voted against the wall, in a huge majority... I'm glad that they are powerless, such ignorance should not be provided with power.
     
  10. Ole_Goat

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    In a manner of speaking, it doesn't matter what the World Court or the U.N. rules. If the wall works keeping Israel secure from suicide bombings, then it going up. I don't think Israel is going to allow World Opinion dictate how they manage its security concerns.

    Coupled with targeting Hamas leaders, the rate of killing civilians could decrease. Seems the rate of suicide bombings has already decreased in the recent months.

    Nothing proves a tactic better than success.
     
  11. MushroomDreams

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    Since the wall has been built, terrorist attacks have decreased by 90%. I don’t like the idea of the wall either but it’s working.
     
  12. Mui

    Mui Senior Member

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    sources?

    And this wall IS seperating people... MANY FAMILIES have had to move because of the wall... so many more palestinians have been raped of their land... 90% my ass... israelis are the real killers... so many more palestinian lives have been lost than israelis.. maybe this wall will prove a good thing for PALESTINE... but i fear the genocide isnt over until israel is put in its place.
     
  13. shaggie

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    Israel and the Palestinians should be working out their differences. We wouldn't even have to be debating the wall issue if their differences could be worked out.
     
  14. MaxPower

    MaxPower Kicker Of Asses

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    Less Israelis dying:
    Bitch about the source all you want, but numbers are numbers.

    Now it's your turn to find a source.
     
  15. Mui

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    a source for what? This wall is destroying peoples lives and stealing their land.
     
  16. Mui

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    please, there havent been that many suicide bombers IN israel... i was asking for a source for the 90% bullshit statistic (nothing pisses me off more when someone makes a reply about some statistic with no source that seems too exaggurated and WRONG)... sure its stopping more "suicide bombers" from coming in israel... but there havent been that many in the first place... what is 90%? like 30? Lmao.

    This wall is fucking bullshit...
     
  17. BraveSirRubin

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    No, your ignorance over the entire topic is bullshit. You argue by using idealistic ideas that do not bring an argument anywhere, and oppose every logical point with them.

    Just by simply calling it a genocide, you are proving to be a very ignorant person. Do you even know the numbers? Do you even know who each country targets? If you want to use the word "genocide", then use it towards Israel, which has civilians targeted by the Palestinian terrorists.

    The wall is stealing Palestinian land? Last time I checked, all of Knan was under Israel's control, and Israel was kind enough to leave a piece to Palestine and not wipe them off the map, like it could do in any of the wars Israel won.
     
  18. LickHERish

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    Spoken like a true zionist. Excuse the terrorism that formed the modern state in the first place and whitewash history to serve your brutal, racist, and indeed anti-semitic state.

    What began with the Irgun and Stern Gang, continues today with the hypocritical nod and wink from Washington.
     
  19. BraveSirRubin

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    Terrorism? You can call the occupying Turks and Britons terrorists, yet not the Israelis, most of whom came to Israel after if was established as a country... by the global community.

    I'm sure that you also hate Americans for taking land off the natives, the Spanish for stealing gold from the Aztecs, and so on and on... bloody hell, I bet you even spit at all statues of Roman Empires because they conquored other lands.
     
  20. Mui

    Mui Senior Member

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    Yeah, pretty much. No one knows the numbers, my man... we only have estimates and distorted polls... israels kill far more palestines than palestines kill israelies though, and thats something i know for sure.

    you can try to defend your peice of shit government all you want, but in the end its fruitless... all empires are fucking insane.
     

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