UN-experienced salvia user Seeks Help.

(excuse some of the abbreviations)


Just going to give you a little insite about me and my "sober life". for the past year and a half ive been very intune with nature and the surroundings around me. long story short the universe has been unfolding itself to me and i see things way differently than i did before. random things that happen in everyday life that have to do with things ive thought about or said recently. i feel if we pay attention to what the universe its trying to say eventually shit would start happening and be noticed. anyway (i correct myself from before) i FEEL ive been very intune wit all that. ive been seeing things and take them into my own interpretation. there is way more to me that i dont wanna begin to explain. but all the things about me open-mindedness (if thats even a word) respecting and loving nature ect ect. i feel in my heart that im ready to fully explore the unknown and might even get answers. as everyone that had never tried anything before my biggest fear with salvia was the crossover... the middle stage of being here in this reality and entering "that world". i also learned that that was my down fall... i shouldnt enter that world or any world with any kind of doubt or fear in my heart nor mind.. i feel im supose to just let the events flow as naturally as life itself. we cant speed up time nor slow it down just go with it. (well not here atleast)

1st experience - 10x extasy brand (dont know if thats good or not)

me and my sitter (who has tried salvia before) set up, dimmed the lights soft music, set propped pillows for me to lean back on. i dont remember exactly how many grams it was but i managed to get the the entire bag without any visuals or have an actual "trip" (connection is the word i like to use)... the first bowl i took i held for about 7 seconds. the only reason i let it out is cause i had a negitive thought in my head. i exhaled and told my sitter i want another. Second hit i held for maybe 10 seconds. my chest started to feel heavy and i exhaled again. my sitter informed me thats the pull and feeling i should hold in for it to take effect. Third hit again i held for about 7 seconds and exhaled... (i believe on listening to instinct and gut feelings idk if it was cause i sub consciously wasn't ready or what. i know on salvia sub conscious and consciousness are seperated during the experience.) BY the fourth hit i think i was able to break thru to level one or two idk. (thats what i would like help with) the room itself and everything in it started turning to the left and it felt as if its been happening over and over and over and over again. like the room was on a constant tilt to the left and no matter how much i tried to lean back to the right to balance out the gravity it still felt the same. the paint on my friends (sitter) wall caught a grasp on my attention also. i caught myself staring at the painting on the wall as if i were .... something that's never seen that before. felt like i COULD of gotten up and walked right through. everything started feeling light as if i were surrounded by clouds. but mind you this was only levels one or two so it wasn't intense at all... the tilting feeling slowly faded but the painting continued to make me feel weird as if i were being watched or ..... idk there is no word i can use to explain but it just had my attention. the last hit i winded up taking probably got me to level 3 or 4 once again im not sure... this time there was no turning. but on the wall next to me there was a flash of blue light. i asked my sitter if he was doing anything with blue lights he said no so i knew it was me. the flashes of blue light looked almost like.... i could put my hand into the wall and walk to it.. like the wall was there but its like it wasnt... ugh idk like it wasnt solid and i could walk into it were i seen the blue light flashes. what really got to me was i closed my eyes... and i seen a very very very hazy chalky like figure. i could make anthing out it was still dark of course but beyond the darkness the was a figure... it looked as if he was reaching out to me like he or she had his hand extended out to me. my eyes were closed but the felt open and everytime i used my second eye lids to 'blink' it felt as if i was in this reality blinking. idk out of the hazy chalk images he or she continued to reach out to me. i tryed to give him or her my hand but i felt my connection here. i was able to feel my real hand lift up and i felt the air around me and just felt i was still part of this reality other than were the figure was.. it was like i was looking from someones point of view and i couldnt respond cause i was still here... after that wore off i got up and still felt light. i honestly felt giddy and bubbly like i just hugged the earth itself (which is a huge fantasy of mine cause it mothers us all.. which i know cant physically happen) since then i havent done it again but ive LONGED to. so i tested myself. (this is going to sound crazy) but i told myself im not going to hold bak next time i do it. so i physically and mentally prepared. and before i was going to tr it again i asked the universe to give me signs. i asked for three butterfly signs and when the third one hit i was going to buy my next bag. i knew were i live (NYC) that this wasnt the season for butterflies to be out. so every random butterfly i would see outside would of been a sign lol.. anyway i payed attention and i got my signs and im acctually considering to buy my next 'gateway' (bag of salvia) tomarrow. i shared my story just so you (and i say you as in who ever reads this) can get a general idea of me and my experience.

questions..... Which brand is a good brand to buy?
how would i know the different levels that i break through?
can the spirit of salvia let me see things that ive fantasized about here? (flying through space ect)

since this is my second time should i move up a doze or should i continue to take 10x in moderation until my receptors open?

is smoking a little bit of weed good or bad before takign salvia. would this give me a good or bad trip.

how would i know the spirit accepts me?

if used more and i get use to it can i meditate and hopefully place myself were i might want to be?

im 18 yrs old my birthday is in exactly 15 days. i weigh 143 lbs. (just a lil info idk why i put it lol)

and like ive said ive become really into nature and everything in it. ive heard the shrooms enhances that naturey feeling even in those who arent intune with that in their sober life. would shrooms be something i would wanna try? (of course at diff times than salvia lol)


thanks for all the reply and comments ahead of time. ill be on here reading responses to my post.. (if there are any lol)


with love to you all... hug a tree. plant a tree. be a tree. lol

 

and another thing.. i also felt the puling sensation from my arms tho

 

OK, get a brand called "Purple Sticky salvia". they have the finest salvia dinvorum extracts. you can order online or get them in new york city. with salvia, the smoke is very hot and thicker than marijuana smoke. so you need to hold it in for as long as you can. another thing about salvia, almost as soon as you exhale, you will be rushed into the trip. as for shrooms, definatly try a light one. you can order magic truffles that are legal online. i hope this helped.

 

thank you.. i will look into that sticky stuff lol. and ill try shrooms in modertaion. and were would i be able to buy it in NYC? if i dnt find it on my own is there a website for that sticky stuff lol?

 

welcome to the forums, i enjoyed reading that

 

awww did u really?? thank you and thanks for the warm welcome.

 

If you are experienced in the United Nations couldn't you ask some of your colleagues for help? I'm sure Ban Ki-Moon or Gaddafi have both had some pretty wild salvia trips in their time.

 

Ummmmmm.....

 

I agree with the poster who suggested Purple Sticky... it was very effective both times in my life that I've used it, once at 25x (breakthrough) and years ago at 15 or 20 (sub breakthrough). I'm sure there are other potent reliable brands, but this is one I know to be effective.

If you have a breakthrough, you will know. Not DURING the trip but as you re-emerge, because in a full breakthrough, reality as you know it is instantly and completely replaced with another. You have no idea where you are, but you know it is REAL. It is common for users to get the sensation that their life up til that point was all a joke and you are being "mocked" by whatever entities reside in Salvialand, for actually believing that your life up til then was real. It is a very bizarre sensation, you will be absolutely convinced while in Salvialand that it is real and will have no recollection of smoking the Salvia.

Everything you know from and of this life will go directly out the metaphorical window. You might see flashes of objects you have seen in your life, but you won't really recognize them as such. I would not count on "fantasizing" about anything you know in this life in Salvialand.

That's up to you, but to me it sounds more like you need to work on your smoking technique. It is quite possible to breakthrough on 10 and even 5x. You want to use a butane torch lighter and you must not just spark it and puff on it like weed... you need to hold the flame to the Salvia, burning it evenly the entire time you inhale and take the hugest, deepest hit you are physically capable of without coughing it out and hold in it until you feel you are about to pass out. Try to clear the bowl in this manner in the first hit. Exhale and IMMEDIATELY go in for another if you didn't clear it and you don't feel yourself starting to drift away after the first hit.

Again, that's up to you. Weed potentiates just about everything, but I have not yet tried it myself.

I can't explain it, you will just know. You may feel a sense of "rejection" or being "scolded" by the entity(ies) if you do not cooperate or they feel you are unfit to have entered their world.

There is not a lot of solid evidence to support this, but I have read that you can have a reverse tolerance to Salvia, meaning that once you breakthrough once, you will breakthrough almost every time. I would just go right for the breakthrough if that's what you are trying to achieve. In my case, I broke through when I wasn't trying to, and now I'm a little fearful to try the low doses to try and achieve a level 2 or 3...

Again, that's entirely up to you. If you are interested in psychedelics and have the mental maturity and capacity to use them properly and responsibly, shrooms are certainly worth exploring. Do some research around this site and Erowid.org and see if they seem like they are the right fit for you. Remember not all psychedelic experiences can be fun or pleasant, some are actually quite difficult or frightening. Once again, do lots of research until you are absolutely and completely comfortable with the idea of trying your new substance. Learn everything you possibly can.

Be safe. Good luck. Peace.

 

yeah i picked up some purplesticky at a shop in st marks. you can get it at any headshop in the city and also online. the magic truffles you buy online will not do much at all. unfortunately psiocybin cubensis mushrooms are illegal to cultivcate or sell so you cannot find them online however hang out with hippie types or just ask your weed dealer and you will definetly find some.

 

I can get shrooms any day of the week in the summer time. I live in the country so their are cow fields every where. One in particular that produces so very potent shrooms. I've tripped many times from shrooms and they are awesome done in moderation. I didnt care for salvia.