Ugly feminists?

i was never ONCE above using my attractiveness to get a job and to keep the customers happy. it's not liek i have a stellar education and ended up thrown into situations where i had to pretty much make up my procedures. i ended up being everyone's best, hardest working employee, and the most unexpectedly clever one, too.

 

at's my girl

 

damned straight.

 

I hear this all the time but really, I could care less if someone thinks I'm ugly. I think I'm ugly most of the time. Being beautiful is not important to me.

 

what??... you're not even close to being ugly

 

maybe i'm misinformed, but i thought that feminists were a hairy gorilla subspecies that wore overalls.

 

she is going to be here pretty soon.. I wouldn't consider her ugly, but she is one of the original feminists

 

hmmm.

 

I find it interesting how a lot of women and men are put off when you say you are a feminist. I believe in equality mainly and am against sexist bull shit. The mainstream media I believe has a lot to do with the stereotypes. Even musicians who are basically followed by women, claim to not be feminists (Bjork).

My personal hygiene has nothing to do with my beliefs. I'm quite girly actually. Though I can say I have read things from "feminist sources-like Our Bodies, Ourselves which tell you not to shave your vagina and how porn is the influence of that and that you are infanitilizing your womanhood. (I do give props though for this book, it was very ground breaking back in its day) These types of things feed this stereotype.

Feminism is about loving your body, not condemning it--regardless of what hygiene behaviors you choose to engage in. Being feminine, does not make you a hypocrite of feminism.

I can say I deal with the awkward looks when I show people my first tattoo, which is a feminist symbol. Or if people ask what I have a tattoo of, then they act obviously uncomfortable. Or they'll be like oh you are one of them.. It is something I will never regret putting on my body regardless of how people react.

Sorry for the rant

 

I have to be honest with you, hardcore feminists scare the fucking crap out of me...

 

hard core masculinists, likewise. *shuddders* i'm askeered of anyone hard core politically. it doesn't seem rational.

 

Yeah, I wish I was born ugly instead of so damned good looking. It's a curse I tell you. A CURSE. I could do so much good for the world and my people if only I were ugly.

 

lol.

 

A couple of thoughts on this thread ...

1. First, you knew there'd be a couple of guys who somehow think it's hilarious to make sophomoric, obnoxious jokes about feminism and feminists. I realize it's because they're undoubtedly so insecure with the idea of women not being subservient to them, which is ironic because a real man knows he has nothing to fear from a real woman. And while it's probably too much to ask that they grow up, they could at least advance their so-called humor beyond puberty, for chrissake.

2. Second, feminism is not about personal "respect" or political correctness. You can't legislate people's attitudes. What MamaCita said is absolutely correct ... if you want to be respected, you have to show by your actions that you are a respectable person.

But that's beside the point. You can legislate equal rights and equal opportunities under the law. For women to be paid three-fourths of what men are paid for the same job is unconscionable, for instance.

It's true there have been great strides made in this area just since I was young, and I am grateful that my daughters will not have to go through some of the crap that I did or my mother did.

3. Third, what the hell does attractiveness have to do with your attitudes about feminism? How asinine is the attitude that looks have anything to do with wanting equal pay and equal opportunity for all? This is simply more of the same attitude as #1.

 

Agreed! I will say this, though. Even men who look better get better opportunites than do men that do not look so good. Legislate THAT out of existence. I will have respect for a woman that earns it. same as a man. I make jokes because thats what i like to do but the bottom line is, people are people. Male, female, new yorker, new mexican, black, white and if you are not worthy of respect, I will give you none. My wife has my total respect but she acts civil and decent and is most deserving of any respect of mine. She has her items she feels strongly about and we may debate those things but I will never use sex as an arguement of any sort and neither will she. I know women AND men that I cannot say the same about.

 

That's what I said, Dave .. lol.

Is that a peregrine in your profile pic?