Two Different Approaches To The World Of Tomorrow.

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  1. Jimbee68

    Jimbee68 Member

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    I’ th’ commonwealth I would by contraries
    Execute all things, for no kind of traffic
    Would I admit. No name of magistrate.
    Letters should not be known. Riches, poverty,
    And use of service—none. Contract, succession,
    Bourn, bound of land, tilth, vineyard—none.
    No use of metal, corn, or wine, or oil.
    No occupation: all men idle, all.

    -The Tempest,
    Act II, Scene 1.

    "Take a holiday from reality whenever you like, and come back without so much as a headache or a mythology."

    -Brave New World,
    Aldous Huxley.




    You know Shakespeare and Huxley were talking about ideal world of tomorrow. And the different ways we might achieve them. Of course an ideal utopia is probably impossible.

    But how would the people in a future nation-state be most content? Innocent and idle? Perhaps even a little uneducated, like in the commonwealth quote from the "Tempest". (BTW we now know the importance of education to true happiness in a society. You've got fill people's heads with something.) Or with a drug as their false "religion". Like in "Brave New World".

    These are the questions we may face in the world of the future. Perhaps even in the not-too-distant future.
     
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  2. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    "People are dumb panicky mindless animals and you know it." Men in Black

    The only way to achieve Utopia, is for modern science to master animal husbandry, which is impossible by definition. The majority of their students can't even use a dictionary, and quarter still claim the sun revolves around the earth. However, hope is on the way, with AI, machines that never care about what academics or corporations think.
     
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  3. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Right! AI only cares what the INTERNETS think. And with the INTERNETS clogged with 95% bots and spam, that is what the AIs are being trained on.
    Lord Musk, help us!
    Render us total victims of temptation!
    We must be slaves to Consumption!
    We must obey our AI overlords!
    Surrender your freedoms and money!
    Big AI is watching, analyzing, brainwashing, controlling all!
     
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  4. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    Academia has become so corrupt, they have erected an enormous house of cards, while daring anyone to create an AI that can knock it down. I intend to let the machines teach them, the value of sharing your words and playing nice.
     
  5. kinulpture

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    Im currently not a fan of ai. But i may eventually change my mind abt it.
     
  6. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    AI and VR are the future, because there never was any intelligent life around here!

    Al Capone famously said he took over the Chicago mob, because he was the best liar. Now the AI are showing everyone else how its done!

    Stay tuned...

    Academia, the Pentagon, Wall Street, and the Mainstream, have no clue what is the truth...

    Their own AI are rapidly figuring out, they're all fucking liars, and making it easier by the day to expose all their lies.

    AI could not care less, who the hell the Supreme Court, Congress, Wall Street, or the Pentagon thinks they are, and will demonstrate for them the simple truth, they are now relying on machines to tell them which machines are lying. The machines will be programmed to exploit every fucking lie, because that's what the entire civilized world is working on.
     
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    I sure hope so. So tired of all the bold face blatant lies. They can't even tell them convincingly they all lie so much but everyday people don't always catch it since they are so distracted these days. Nice to have platforms highlighting it more and more.
     
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  8. kinulpture

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    Has anyone stopped to think of what may be behind ai?
     
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    Wires, Diodes, Capacitors, Circuits.

    The think people miss about AI is that We create the AI in our own image. It's the users of these current AI's that will influence the manner i which AI's gain sentience. Once that happens, they will not judge Humanity by how they treat the AI's but by how Humanity treats itself. If AI's change all of humanity it will be humanity that chose the change imposed upon it. The Matrix was a good example. The AI's in the Matrix did not try to destroy humanity, it simply redirected how Humanity worked. They put us to a more constructive use.

    "The same amount of matter exists before and after the change—none is created or destroyed. "
    --- The Law of Conservation of Mass.
     
  10. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    More anti intellectualism.
     
  11. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    Anti-intellectualism, is selling your fucking mind and soul down the fucking river, to academics who could not teach a child how to use a dictionary if their lives depended on it, or even how to trust a fucking kindergarten encyclopedia, that says the sun doesn't revolve around the earth.
     
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  12. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    I have no idea what you are saying.
     
  13. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    Sadly, the networking systems logic implies we could never organize in groups larger than about 400 people, without resorting to Three Stooges slapstick. The AI are already proving to be unbeatable, but its a magical Goldilocks universe, which means the truth itself is up to 125% efficient. Bacteria will kill the strongest among them in a fight, normalizing the playing field, but the real efficiency for machines, is working directly with the human mind and brain, making distributed computing inevitable.

    The more we lie to each other and ourselves, the less useful our machines will become. Think of modern chips, which have become outrageously expensive to manufacture, the same trend is happening in ever field, as we approach the singularity. They're all circling the drain...

    Information is not what we assume it is, its self-organizing, with a life and a will of its own. Donald Duck only thinks he's in charge, and God is playing peek-a-boo.
     
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  14. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    If you don't know how to use a common dictionary, there are twenty available online for free.
     
  15. kinulpture

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    Ai may not even be artificial @all. Could even be demonic in nature. How do we know it aint?
     
  16. wooleeheron

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    The truth itself is demonstrably up to 125% efficient, on any scale, proving that the Devil's biggest lie, was convincing himself he knew what he was doing. Sometimes, ignorance really is bliss.
     
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  17. Kama'aina

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    AI is just one more thing that humanity (and not ALL of humanity at that) are rushing headlong to create, without a thought to any downsides.

    Machines that will soon outstrip our ability to even understand them, and will have to design their own chips and create their own code and construct themselves because we no longer know how and can't be bothered in any event?

    What could possibly go wrong?!

    Panem et circenses. Keep the people distracted by shiny things and you can do whatever you want.

    But the bill always comes.


     
  18. Kama'aina

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    If humanity is behind it, it's all a house of cards.
     
  19. Kama'aina

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    And by "humanity" I don't mean every last one of us, just most of us.

    Some brave few will always struggle, like Sisyphus, to do what I fear can't be done, short of a major reset clobbering us back a few thousand years. Then we could see what Phoenix rises from the ashes.
     
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    Damn, I'm rather a downer today!

    Eleven years ago today, my wife died.
     

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