Tryps & PEAs

At this point I'm basically trying to get some guidance concerning what I should experience next. I've experimented enough to know that I'm a huge fan of the tryptamines and phenethylamines. I've experienced ego death twice, once with 3 g of psilocybin mushrooms + 40 mg DMT smoked (my favorite psychedelic experience of all time, HIGHLY recommended!) and once with 0.4 g 20x extract salvia divinorum (which I valued but would not necessarily recommend).

I'm primarily looking for insight on synthetic tryptamines and PEAs (5-MeO-DMT, 2C's, etc.). I've tried 2C-B and I'm branching out into 2C-I and 2C-E soon. That's pretty much all I have planned so far.

What's your favorite tryp and/or PEA? What would you suggest I try next? Which is the best for personal experience? Which is the best for recreational use?

Has anyone had any success with finding their favorite tryp + PEA combo? I'm thinking about tripping one of each simultaneously soon.

Bonus Question:
Which synthetic form of psilocin would you recommend? 4-AcO-DMT, 4-AcO-DET, something else? Which one resembles psilocybin mushrooms the closest? Which one has given you the best experience, even if it wasn't all that similar?

 

My favorite Tryptamine is 5-meo-amt and my favorite Phenethylamine is 2c-p so far. Although I haven't tried too many PEA's... But 2c-p is awesome imo. I like wayy more intense psychedelics, so it's all on what kind of trip you want.

Are you looking for intense, more candy like, stimulant... ?

If you are looking for something like mushrooms, eat mushrooms.. lol. But I heard 4-aco-dmt kind of like a mushroom high, but not quite the same..

 

I never ate shrooms, but 4-AcO-DMT naturally felt like what I thought shrooms would feel like.

A friend described 25 mg of 4-AcO-DMT [what we each took as first dose] as kind of like shrooms, for the first hour or so. Then it gets totally different and really intense, and that the peak was very, very intense, and like an acid/shrooms peak more than shrooms.

I couldn't really compare it to acid too much though... never tried shrooms, seriously, but I probably should have after trying many a variety of psychedelic drugs now...

After that little blurb, I'd just have to say there're different strokes for different folks, but right now I'm starting to get more and more interested in DOx substances.

EDIT: Oh yeah, SWIM, my monkey, and my monkey's friend, all told me to write I when I was talking about myself.

 

5-MeO-AMT definitely interests me. Thanks for the reminder!

I'm a little reluctant to try 2C-P anytime soon because I've heard the dose sensitivity is much more volatile than more common 2C's. I want to try at least the 2C-E first to see where my head is with that one.

I'm looking for anything, everything. I'm no stranger to intense psychedelia, so feel free to proffer your best! Visual distortions are always fun, but I guess what I'm really asking for are the substances that have caused indisputably positive (maybe entheogenic?) experiences. If you could recommend one (or more) tryps, PEA's, other synthetics, for a person to experience in their lifetime, which would it be and why?

As far as stimulant vs sedative effects, I have no preference. I'm sure I can find utility in both, depending on the circumstances.

I'd eat more mushies if I could. They've either been overpriced or unavailable for the last 6 months, though. Hence my interest in a synthetic emulator.

 

Well 5-meo-amt is wayyyy more dose sensitive than 2c-p... But it is the most intense and awesome psych I have done in my life.

The first time I did 2c-p I thought I did 10mg, but after re weighing the doses I made, they were about 12-13mg. I had no bad effects at all, I will probably be trying higher doses in the future. So if you start anywhere from 5-10mg you will be just fine I would definately reccommend it to anyone who is looking for a long acting, intense and extremely fun compund that is great for spirituality, love, emotions, connection and awesomeness

I say if you liked teh 5-meo-amt you will like 2c-p. I haven't tried 2c-e yet, but I hear it has more body load than 2c-p... I will probably try to dabble more in the synth PEA's now that I have tried one. I have always steered more towards tryps, since they are known to be more intense.

You can always grow mushrooms, it is extremely easy

 

I highly recommend 2c-E. It's good at low doses, as well as insanely intense at higher doses.

 

Psych is not lying; 5-MeO-AMT is definitely intense, lol.. probably not the best to take as a beginner (not saying u are, just saying because that's what I did, lol).

I think I got fucked over and given a dose larger than what I was told becuz I spent like 8 hours in the bathroom. when i wasn't puking (or sitting on the toilet) i was plastered to the floor, *literally floored, with the most intense visuals of my entire life and "sunk into the floor" up to eye level.


*ahem. anyway. just seconding from personal experience that 5MeO-AMT is definitely superintense and very dose sensitive.. even more care than normal should probably be given to dosing up this one, and def. not for the faint of heart..

Other than that the only other tryp i've experienced was 5-MeO-DiPT a couple times which was somewhat similar but justquite a bit milder with much less of a body load (n way way less nausea), but then again, i probably didn't take a dose larger than i should have those times, so.. i do remember the -dipt being alot less of a mind-bender, though. also interested in branching off into the phen's and a couple more of the tryps perhaps, and maybe some beta ketones. good luck on ur quest... hehe

 

I've never tried 5-MeO-aMT, but it's my cousin's favorite RC. That dude would take more than 20mg of 5-MeO-aMT and end up going to his job during the trip, and nobody suspected a thing. haha Dude's a beast. I've seen people take smaller doses of 5-MeO-aMT than he did and they ended up in the hospital. lol

 

All tryptamines are nice, I have not been let down by them. DMT and DPT are my favorites. The only phens I would seek out again are DOx and MDMA. I would rather smoke weed than take a 2c. Your mind can only trip out so much, and I think there are much better alternatives out there than 2cs.

 

I took 10mg the first time and 14mg the next time.. I don't think I could handle 20mg of 5-meo-amt... That would just be insane and dangerous.

 

Does it make you see divine visions? I have never tried 5meo anything lol.

 

10mg and 14mg is considered pretty dangerous too. lol

 

Is that the dude who took 200mg aMT?

 

My cousin said it used to make him see dead bodies hanging from trees and whatnot. haha

 

It is very divine. I have not done anything with as intense of visuals... There are times where you can't keep your eyes closed because everything is so amazing, and then you get to a point where you have to close them and watch, and let your muscles move to your feelings. This chem is like a rollercoaster for 20+ hours of fun and excitement inside your mind and body.

My larger dose I did get sick for a little while and purged, but felt better after that. I learned how to play rock band, mastered the whole band and was playing solo guitaring and singing on the mic. I don't know how I made my fingers move to hit the right color buttons when I saw them. But I did

 

Yes.

He was really big into meth, at the time, so I think that had something to do with the fact that his body could handle the physical effects of such high doses.

 

Even though I prefer tryps, I find that PEAs are more abundant. Wish that wasn't the case...

For certain circumstances, growing my own fungi won't be viable in the short term. An option I definitely plan to reconsider as soon as possible, though...

That's what I've heard. I'm pretty excited about the 2C-E, definitely more so than the 2C-I. I'm sure I'll end up digging both. I'll have to get back to the forums after I've given each a shot. I'll definitely have enough to mix the two, which is something I'm considering. Anyone else out there try mixing 2C's?

DMT is my favorite experience, period, so far. I'm skeptical that anything could even come close, but very willing to explore possibilities. DPT is high on the list of things to try next.

Also have the opportunity to roll pretty soon for the first time, here in a couple weeks. VERY excited for that!

Haven't had any of the DOx yet. Don't they typically last a long time? The only one I'm really familiar with is DOB.

 

I've mixed 2c-E and 2c-I. I was usually taking 40mg of 2c-E with 15-20mg of 2c-I, and it was always wonderful. One day, I took 25mg of 2c-E with 25mg of 2c-I and that was pretty cool too.

 

Sounds like some sweet stuff. I like it when open or closed eye no longer percieve differant forms.

 

Really hard to choose favorites though. depends what your criteria are. I guess if I had to select one tryptamine and one PEA on the basis of giving someone with 0 drug experience a taste of both worlds, I would select DPT and MDMA. Those would be excellent ambassadors, although one would be an extreme example and another would be a gentle example, which is also good.

but really i would just throw my vote in for the ergolines