Trump Signs Order To Revive Dakota And Keystone Pipelines

Discussion in 'Latest News' started by Openmind693, Jan 24, 2017.

  1. Openmind693

    Openmind693 Well-Known Member

    Down with the environment and up with the precious oil.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/us/trump-signs-order-to-revive-dakota-and-keystone-pipelines-1.2949498
     
  2. SpacemanSpiff

    SpacemanSpiff Waddayagonnado Staff Member Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

    he made it quite clear in his campaign...

    its good to see a president actually following thru with promises that got him enough votes to get elected
     
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  3. Moonglow181

    Moonglow181 Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    Well, you already know how I feel and will forever feel about all of this...no need to keep repeating myself....:(

    My comment was to the OP....as I did not know you would be there, Spaceman, responding at same time.
     
  4. MorphGirl

    MorphGirl Banned

    Yes it is a rare thing to see. Not sure I completely like the idea as it pertains to Canada. Lol. What did our prime minister promise? Change right? But we don't know what changes are to come... i think the change will be a weak government ...Trump might want to toss out nafta and renegotiate which could mean loss of jobs for Canadians and supplying more jobs to the USA. Trudeau really is not equipped to be in there position he is in. He does wear his suits well though and has a nice smile. Don't you think?
     
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  5. SpacemanSpiff

    SpacemanSpiff Waddayagonnado Staff Member Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

    I think you should stay on topic of trump and the pipeline
     
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  6. I think that it will serve to ignite a feud between protesters and riot cops. Very sad day.
     
  7. Meliai

    Meliai Senior Member

    This is going to get ugly

    Lol
     
  8. YouFreeMe

    YouFreeMe HipForums Supporter

    Probably one of my biggest fears of a Trump presidency, and this is only the beginning.
     
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  9. Heat

    Heat Smile, it's contagious! :) Lifetime Supporter

    The actual statement that was made was

    "“Subject to a renegotiation of terms by us – we’re going to renegotiate some of the terms,” Trump told reporters today in the Oval Office as he signed the two measures. “And if they’d like, we’ll see if we can get that pipeline built.”

    I actually am wondering how it will be viewed as setting of new terms and negotiation is usually a two way conversation. ;)

    Let the games begin. This is going to cause a lot of environmental issues on both sides of the border.
     
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  10. Aerianne

    Aerianne Crazy Cat Lady Staff Member Super Moderator

  11. MorphGirl

    MorphGirl Banned

    Well nafta is the north American free trade agreement. Obama admin disregarded this agreement with Canada which has brought about a lawsuit for 15 billion dollar against the us government from keystone xl with regards to this breech of contract. So now trump wants to renegotiate the nafta agreement since obama disregarded it.. He will be meeting Trudeau in a month. I can't see this sorting itself right awaY

    I would post a link to this but i don't know if it is allowed?
    Last one was deleted?
     
  12. farmerdon

    farmerdon Well-Known Member

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  13. SpacemanSpiff

    SpacemanSpiff Waddayagonnado Staff Member Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

    this thread isnt about nafta
     
  14. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman mama's boy

    Wow that was fast.

    The change of policy from Obama to Trump happened so quickly. 8 years ago, it took a couple months before any significant changes were noticed between Bush and Obama. If I recall, Obama's first noticeable policy was cash for clunkers.
     
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  15. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

    This sort of thing makes me wonder... Can any country, who actually cares about the environment and health and well-being of its people, ever keep up with the countries who don't care? With the election of Trump, the United States has basically proclaimed, "FUCK THE ENVIRONMENT, and FUCK THE HEALTH OF OUR PEOPLE". In my opinion, these pipelines are a colossal waste of resources. Our greedy moron governments focusing on short term dirty carbon energy. Put your money and jobs into building green energy technology; solar, wind and hydrogen plants and new technology development laboratories and factories.
     
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  16. Solar uses up too many rare metals and because of the batteries is more harmful to the environment, just in a different way

    Wind takes up too much space for the energy produced which impacts ecosystems

    Hydrogen will never be viable on a mass scale, similar problems with solar, in that containers, cells, whats needed for transport will suck up too many rare metals. Hydrogen is non polluting after it has been produced, but where do you think they get the hydrogen from in the first place?

    And as far as Global Warming goes, water vapour is the primary greenhouse gas, the output of a hydrogen cell


    Petrol is "greener" than all three of those
     
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  17. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman mama's boy

    Solar and wind are pointless since they hardly generate enough power to get a return on your investment. Geothermal is the best way to go as it takes the everlasting supply of the heat generated beneath the Earth's crust.
     
  18. MorphGirl

    MorphGirl Banned

    I concur 6, I concur. :).

    I would like someone to convert gravitational potential energy Into electricity.... take every escalator and it can be turned into a small generator to power the up one very easily. Conserving energy ... but it would be best to just take the stairs and use your own energy. :)

    Thanks for the link. :). Clinton said a lot of things. :). I never believed anything he said.
     
  19. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

    That was true 15 years ago, now solar can be done much cheaper and have a fast ROI. I have built my own panels from Chinese kits for about $1 per watt. I've calculated that I can have my house completely off grid for $4-5K if I did all the work myself. It would also pay for itself within 4 years with only a 5 hour daily average solar duty.
     
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  20. Piney

    Piney Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    Keystone goes all through Red States.
     

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