Trump And The Nazis Are Winning, Soon It Really "did Not Happen"

Lol, oh what a load of rubbish. Christmas isn't a branch of all religious holidays it's Christmas. Why say happy holidays on Christmas to include everyone as a whole when everybody as a whole already knows, it's Christmas.

 

companies have a financial incentive to be as inclusive as possible. But, they're just trying to make a buck off the back of a religious holiday in the first place, its not like a profit motivated company ever really represented the true spirit of Christmas. And companies try all sorts of ridiculous branding ideas. IHOB, anyone?
that doesn't really mean there's a war on Christmas

 

They also know they'll that the influx of Moslem population around the world greatly generates more income if those Moslems were to buy their products, hence taking religious words or attributes off their products to sell more to specific audiences or, groups of people.

Ie. They make more money when their products aren't offensive to Moslems. And whinging atheists.

 

Because people don't have to go to work?

 

Also true.

 

atheist here, i dont really give a shit what people say lol

merry christmakwanzahannukah festivus yall

 

But nothing Islam I see? Case in point. One group. And whinging atheists.

 

That's a mouthful.

That's what she....

Nvm

 

lets just celebrate the winter solstice and call it a day, my fellow pagan

 

Getting back to the topic,"Trump and the Nazis are Winning, Soon It Did Not Happen" my questions are: (1) what do we consider to be "the Nazis"? (2) What, if anything, do they have to do with Trump? (3) are they "winning", and if so, in what respect? and (4) what does it mean that soon "It Did Not Happen", and is that true? Let's consider these one by one.
First, what do we consider to be "the Nazis"? Using the term "Nazis" in discussions of American politics is risky, since it's been misused too often as an all purpose cuss word to tar one's political opponents. Someone is sure to bring up Godwin's law or reductio ad Hitlerum : the first person to use Nazi or Hitler loses. In light of current developments, however, Godwin has qualified his "Law" after trump became a candidate: "If you're thoughtful about it and show some real awareness of history, go ahead and refer to Hitler when you talk about Trump, or any other politician." The Washington Post, December 14, 2015. So if we're careful, the term might have some utility. I certainly wouldn't characterize most or all Trump supporters as Nazis. I think of Nazis as having the following characteristics: (1) scapegoating, or targeting outgroups ; (2) ethno-nationalism, or ethnocentric tribalism based on racial or ethnic characteristics; (3) authoritarianism, or a preoccupation with hierarchy and authority; (4) attachment to violence as a way of solving problems; (5) populism, or the rejection of establishment elites and identification with "the people" or folk; (6) the Führer principle of follow the charismatic leader. On this basis, we can identify certain groups in the United States and in Europe that can be classified as Nazi or close enough, depending on how far we think it's useful to broaden the term. I'd argue that most of the folks who marched through the streets of Charlottesville with shields and torches chanting "Jews will not replace us", "Whose streets, our streets" were Nazis, even though some may prefer to wear sheets instead of swastika armbands.

 

I wouldn't consider populism as a bad thing at this point. When 5 men own more wealth than 3.5 billion people on earth something has gone wrong imo.

 

And who among us are foolish enough to think we have a shot and knocking them off those gilded thrones? We have over 500 assholes in the US government to get through first. A daunting task.

 

Trump supporters don't hate the rich, they hate non-Americans.

 

I don't think populism per se is a bad thing. Populism can have a left wing side and a right wing side. Left wing populism means supporting the rights and power of ordinary people in their struggle against the privileged elite. In the United States, left populism became a movement and party challenging the power of the banks and railroads, giving rise to the Populist Party in 1892 and leading to such reforms as the progressive income tax and initatives and referenda at the state level. Populism 's becomes right wing when combined with xenophobia and authoritarianism. The "Know Nothing" movement in the 1850s was an anti-immigrant, anti-Catholic movement spawned by the waves of immigration during that period. It gave rise to the American Party to which Trump's MAGA movement seems a throwback. Trump: a throwback to the Know-Nothing Party of the 1850s., as was the Tea Party Movement, which was bankrolled by the mult-ibillionaire Koch brothers. But all populists tend to be dividers instead of uniters, splitting society into two camps: the in-group and the out-group, and to be hostile to diversity, as opposed to the undifferentiated mass called "the people". What Is a Populist? - The Atlantic "In times of enormous demographic shift and economic uncertainty, populism exerts a strong appeal for the anxious voter. Populist messages rely on simplistic answers to complex problems and promote an us-versus-them warfare mentality." Sound familiar?

 

I vote for skipping this whole conversation and celebrating Christmas early instead.

 

I was thinking he meant to give us an analogy say like between Abdula and the Oregon Bird Sanctuary Occupiers? A case of disparate treatment?

 

In the ranks of hard core Neo-Nazis, I'd include the American Nazi Party, the National Socialist Movement, the Daily Stormers, the Aryan Nations Sadistic Souls, the Traditionalist Worker Party, Vanguard America, and Richard Spencer's more "respectable" National Policy Institute. Spencer, often regarded as founder of the AltRight, projects the college educated, thinking man's image of white supremacy, but his followers gave the stiff armed salute when he said "Hail Trump". To these, I'd add the K.K.K. in its various forms, despite the historic differences between the two movements. David Duke of the K.K.K. is the counterpart of Richard Spencer in that outfit--white supremacy in a suit and tie. How many are there? Nobody knows for sure. The Southern Poverty Law Center says there are 917 such groups The best estimates of total membership in these is around most 150,000. How Many Nazis Are There in America, Really? https://www.nationalmemo.com/just-many-neo-nazis-u-s-anyway/ In a nation of over 300 million, this may seem like a drop in the bucket, and only a tiny fraction of the 63 million Americans who voted for Trump in 2016. Add to this the broader hipster Alt Right of twenty-something, thirty something youths, and the earlier Patriot and Christian identity movements, and we're probably talking in the millions. While some express reservations about Trump giving his daughter to a Jew, most rally behind the man who gave racist movements a shot in the arm.

But this is still a small fraction, 5% at most, of Trump's base. The white blue collar workers without college degrees who supply the bulk of the Trump movement are more traditional in their outlook and behavior. He won 50 percent of voters making less than $50,000. While real wages have grown for men and women with a four-year degree or better in the last 25 years, they've fallen for non-college men. According to a survey from RAND Corporation, they feel powerless and without a meaningful voice in politics. The best predictors of their voting patterns are authoritarian personality traits and fear of Muslim terrorism. They live in parts of the country with racial resentments.Who Are Donald Trump's Supporters, Really? The state of the white supremacy and neo-Nazi groups in the US They share xenophobic populism with the Neo-Nazis and faith in the Donald to Make America Great Again, although they are less violence prone and may not be explicitly anti-Semitic and white supremacist.

Have they one? Not yet. Too early to call. There's a congressional election coming up, and before that the usual fall showdowns over the budget and the debt ceiling, not to mention the impending hurricane season and fallout from the incipient trade wars and possibly Mueller Report. So I wouldn't slash my wrists just yet.

 

Did you just refer to 30 somethings as youths?

I knew I liked you, okie.

 

The closer it gets, the younger it looks. Never trust anybody over 40!