Trump Administration Accomplishments

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  1. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    Yup … Russians were up to no good … Russkie-Shenanigans.
     
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  2. Driftrue

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    I'm concerned that none of those accomplishments are about looking after the planet, and some are probably at the expense of it.
     
  3. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    Trump and his sons must not have had time for the planet, because they were looking at pictures of dead elephants and dead elephant parts … like tails.
     
  4. soulcompromise

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    Trump knows what he is doing. He knows exactly, and he doesn't let it stop him. I get the impression that he is purposefully letting there be doubts about his overall ethical standards. He has some kind of complex about this. A sort of "no one can prove it" attitude about him that one.

    As far as I'm concerned he is only the President until we can elect a new one. That is how things are done here. I don't care what he has accomplished, he has backed the U.S. out of global deals about the environment (namely the Paris Climate thing I think it's called) and it feels like shit to have him as our representative; because that's what we have, a representative government. And I don't want to continue because it's trivial as hell. Everyone knows the guy is a dud. Why we keep having this conversation is a mystery.
     
  5. lode

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    The hen should often consult the fox about the hen houses state of affairs.
     
  6. Driftrue

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    because we're just a bunch of chattering monkeys
     
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  7. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member HipForums Supporter

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    :D
     
  8. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    What does the fox say?
    "Ring-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding!
    Gering-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding!
    Gering-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding!"
    What the fox say?
     
  9. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Its appears to be written, or at least dictated by Trump himself.

    But unemployment figures are easy to check, yes, lowest in decades in a lot of demographics.

    And whilst he hasnt made a dent in national debt, it also hasnt blown out at the rate it did during previous administrations
     
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  11. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Its not Trumps fault you have a shitty healthcare system. Well shitty way its funded, your healthcare system is great as long as you have a spare 100k lying around


    That was all decided on in the Truman days, and probably impossible to turm around within 2 terms of any President now
     
  12. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Here is a little rundown of the difference between the terms national debt and national deficit/ surplus. They sound the same, but are two very different things

    National debt of the United States - Wikipedia

    The blue green graph, your national debt is something ridiculous like 22 trillion, but as you can see by the right side of the graph, increases have slowed under Trump

    Most recent high rates of increase, was 2009, early Obama

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    Economically, he is doing well, given whats happening currently in Europe in particular

    An increase in federal budget deficit means more government spending, which is a good thing
     
  13. lode

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    Debt is total amount of our outstanding liabilities. Deficit (or surplus) is a the difference between what the government spends and takes in.

    A deficit add's to the outstanding total liabilities. The growth of our deficit is not primarily due to increased public spending, but from decreases in government revenue from taxation from the 2017 tax cut.
     
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  14. Vanilla Gorilla

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    As I tried to explain previously, I dont think the vast majority of the public even know what quantitative easing even is. And even the most expert of expert economists dont know what long term zero or negative inflation will do to the world economy and how effective QE actually is

    You wont hear any of those economists publically saying "fucked if I know" of course. But we are in new territory now since mid 2000s, and no one knows

    Trumps made it out the US China trade war was his idea, but you were going to get a defacto trade war anyway as soon as you start buying up your own bonds en masse

    You get stories from the likes of CNN and the Washington post that chinese tariffs are hurting farmers because equipment costs more.....equipment from china. But thats only in the short term. 5 years later, those farners are buying equipment just as cheap, but coming from Indonesia...but then you dont hear those stories because they arent good clickbait.

    The world needs to ween itself off China, or more specifically, the world needs to find a cheaper China.

    Looks like Indonesia will be one of them, and thats a good thing, because that country has really bad poverty.

    Plus the Hong Kong thing and China flexing its military muscle is spooking everyone in asia, so the rest of Asia will do it for you anyway
     
  15. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Ah, drop it

    You stuffed up

    Here is the link again for anyone else that wants to know why 22 trillion is more important than 1/2 trillion extra in government spending

    National debt of the United States - Wikipedia
     
  16. I don't know what quantitative easing is.
     
  17. lode

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    Are you denying that increasing defecit leads to increased debt?

    This is from your link

    " A deficit year increases the debt, while a surplus year decreases the debt as more money is received than spent."
     
  18. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Dude, you stuffed up

    I said national debt, you ranted about the the federal deficit, then gave me a definition of the two terms to try and cover up you stuffed up


    " A deficit year increases the debt, while a surplus year decreases the debt as more money is received than spent."

    ^^^^
    And no it is not this simple anymore, not that it ever was. Might increase the debt within a single year, but government spending promotes growth, jobs etc, contribute to lowering a nations total debt later on. The whole austerity/anti austerity argument. Which is something most of our readers do understand
     
  19. Meliai

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    Judging by the way I'm labeled a free stuff fairy propagandist (lol) or a socialist by some of our readers for suggesting the US should spend money on things that benefit its citizens, I'm really not sure some of our readers understand
     
  20. It just doesn't make sense...using taxes to make our nation stronger and improve the quality of life for everyone? What...what is this? What are you talking about?

    More military. That's what we desperately need.
     

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