trojans...

Discussion in 'Computers and The Internet' started by old tiger, Jan 4, 2007.

  1. old tiger

    old tiger Senior Member

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    Recently I got a backdoor Trojan noticed on my system:mad:
    my provider is investigating the matter..
    if it's a keylogger..they will have to find his IP adress..
    and block the fucker...this is internet abuse..
    any advice??I guess it's an SD.bot.bcc??
    Tiger
     
  2. sentient

    sentient Senior Member

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    look for an anti key logger
    also one way that may provide info about whether its a keylogger or not is that
    if you open a word processing package or notepad
    then start typing you will probably see the lights flashing on your modem as you type
    IF you have a keylogger - its not a 100% reliable method of detection but can be usefull
    infact its about 60 - 70 % successful but those odds are too low so get yourself a decent scanner like adaware which is free
    http://www.download.com/Ad-Aware-SE-Personal-Edition/3000-8022_4-10045910.html?part=dl-ad-aware&subj=dl&tag=top5

    Another thing you should do is to use firefox
    and get these plugins for it
    noscript
    adblock plus
    http://www.firefox.com
    again this is all 100%free

    you cant effectively block anything with internet explorer
    with those plugins on firefox and with java disabled in your browser you will stop maybe 80% of attacks

    BUT THE MOST VALUABLE THING YOU CAN DO is to buy a hardware firewall
    the more expensive the better but even a cheap one will do. Not a software firewall !!! they are next to useless in comparison to physical hardware that you put between the line out to the internet and your computer
     
  3. old tiger

    old tiger Senior Member

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    Sentient...

    Thanks a lot for your useful advice..:)
    a keylogger..can be a small program in software..
    or a hacker..in case of a hacker..the provider usually finds..
    the IP adress..and the fucker gets trapped..and blocked..
    my provider is investigating..they think it could be a hacker..
    I personally think..it's a software problem..but..anyway..
    let's see what my provider finds out...
    P.S..I run on Maxthon browser...not bad at all...
    Tiger...
     
  4. Adderall_Assasin

    Adderall_Assasin Senior Member

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    good luck with that. seriously. not all trojans can be detected though. only the mainstream ones that are built on common code and strings are recognized. that stuff sentient said is probably the best reasonable advice for a die hard Windows user...

    or you could spend zero dollars and get Linux. :) actually, most hardware firewalls use Linux. think smoothwall. if you still want Windows, then just load smoothwall onto an old computer and hook it up between your Internet and Windows box.

    it is well worth looking into.
     
  5. old tiger

    old tiger Senior Member

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    Adderall..

    Thanks..I don't think I'll ever run on Linux..
    I'm in constant contact with my provider..
    they keep track..and will give me a signal..
    in case it's a hacker..which I doubt..
    Tiger
     
  6. Adderall_Assasin

    Adderall_Assasin Senior Member

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    ok, you dont have to run linux on your desktop to be protected by it. i was saying that hardware firewalls use linux to protect windows machines. but wow, i have never heard anyone say that before 'I don't think I'll ever run on Linux..' no offense.

    my mom used to run windows untill she got a virus. then she reloaded windows but kept her old files and she thought she was soo cool. nope. the virus came back and now she uses Fedora Core Linux and has not had a problem since.

    when she used windows, she paid her ISP to provide her with extra security monitoring and software. it never helped. and btw, the helpdesk SUCKS!!! so get linux and spend less time on the phone and more time browsing the Internet.
     
  7. old tiger

    old tiger Senior Member

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    Helpdesks..yeah..they suck..I know that..:mad:

    I get in touch with my provider via their abuse net mailbox..
    maybe I'll switch to Linux...one day:) who knows???
    Tiger
     
  8. sentient

    sentient Senior Member

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    One thing about ISP helpdesks is that (and I know this for a fact) they just put the phone down and get on with doing something else then if you phone back they make shit up about the problem. Especially if you are just going to get through to someone different next time. They more-or-less view viruses and keyloggers as your problem

    what aderall was saying is you could get a firewall - but also you could get a cheap pentium 3 computer (or even a pentium2) and build a proxy server / firewall out of linux
    then put that between the net and your computer
    quite simple and effective at keeping attacks down

    Dont rely on your isp tho - theyre not that good at one-to-one security where each desktop on their network is a priority

    when I think of my isp I think this
    [​IMG]

    but it should be this
    [​IMG]
     
  9. old tiger

    old tiger Senior Member

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    Sentient,Adderall..
    Thanks for the information..
    I'm running a program to track down keyloggers..
    I never thought it's a hacker though..we will see..
    I'll have to go into my P.C register:)
    not easy stuff..but I'll manage it:)
    Tiger
     
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  11. old tiger

    old tiger Senior Member

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    Artik..
    Thanks..I used this German scanner Antivir before...
    it's a free virus scanner..but I used the premium version..
    not bad..but their heuristic database is not what bitdefender offers..
    for trojans,keyloggers,dialers etc..I use other stuff..
    point is here..my daily upload/download shows signs..
    that a keylogger is or was activ...so..I'll find out..
    nothing to worry about..I know a little bit about computers..
    it's through making mistakes..and faults..one learns a lot..:)
    but thanks for the tip anyway..antivir is a good scanner..
    I always thought it was better then AVG..
    Tiger:)
     
  12. sentient

    sentient Senior Member

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    I'd recommend you BUY a copy of bitdefender and get a hardware firewall
    a sonicwall, netgear, or cisco
     
  13. sentient

    sentient Senior Member

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    doublepost
     
  14. robspace2

    robspace2 Banned

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    I don't know alot about computers so I keep it clean just so I don't have problems with it. I use IE7 and I did have Mc Afee as it comes free with MSN. I found too many virus's slipped by it though.-I switched to Norton. I have the total protection package and have had not one virus since. I also use Spyware Detector and so far between the two I have had very few problems. I also use Reg Vac and A-I for cleaning and Window Washer.-I defrag with Perfect Disk.-I run it all once a week-
     
  15. sentient

    sentient Senior Member

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    correction.... have not had one virus you know about

    Actually I am interested to know whether you use norton AV 2007
    as I have heard they made it better than previous versions with less self promotion and fewer popup annoyances etc
     
  16. robspace2

    robspace2 Banned

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    This is 2005 version-I have no pop ups or any promotions at all-I keep it updated so maybe they did away with any of that-I hardly know it's there until I download a program. Then it asks if I want it.I do have to shut off the firewall sometimes to load certain files-It has kept my the system real clean-I know what ya mean about the older versions; they would take alot of mbs and had alot of ads-Not anymore-
     
  17. old tiger

    old tiger Senior Member

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    Robspace..
    My neighbour uses IE Explorer 6..
    and put Norton internet security 2006 on it..
    he told me..this Norton scanner makes his P.C slower..
    the 2007 version should be better..another friend told me Explorer 7..
    gets stuck sometimes..Vista might make it better,who knows??
    I run only Windows 2000..Bitdefender scanner,Ad Aware,reg cleaner..
    IE 6 gave me trouble as well..I changed to Maxthon and Avant..
    I run avant on my P.C now..which I think is a good browser..
    I recently got lots of trouble with spam..put a spamfilter on it..
    but it can't stop spam..any advice??
    I have reason to believe some keylogger..
    sends spam via my account..that's internet abuse..
    that's why my provider is investigating the matter..
    I had days of 2,7 Gigabyte upload/download..:mad:
    can't be..it's back to normal bit now..
    but I constantly monitor it..so is my provider..
    but like Sentient mentioned before..helpdesks suck..
    it takes 30 min..before you get someone connected..
    I will solve this myself..it's a challenge anyway:)
    Tiger
     
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