Tripping with history

Hey everyone! When I trip I feel as if the universe is more...understandable, I also feel as if you can ask the universe and earth a question and get a sensible answer back. My question is do you think its possible to percieve the knowledge of past events if you ask the universe while tripping? If I went to the Egyptian pyramids could I ask the land to show me how they were built?

Thanks for your time!

 

Pretty far out concept...

I have felt I have gotten a deeper glimpse into constellations on an LSD trip and felt like I understood them more than I had prior, although I'm not really sure what concepts about constellations from that trip really stuck. I do tend to feel a greater understanding of the world around me and aspects of my mind/consciousness more when I dose LSD and I feel I have gained knowledge this way, however I also tend to make some very abstract connections sometimes that seem meaningful and profound during the trip, but back in sober consciousness seem absurd.

So It's difficult for me to envision asking the universe, earth, spirits or whatever 'other' on an LSD trip to impart the knowledge of something like a far past event such as how the pyramids were built and watching it all unfold in my mind's eye. I'd suggest that it's more likely that you may have some notions about a topic, such as how the pyramids were built, and that on LSD it allows for a deeper critical analysis and expansion on your current concepts and notions in a new light, with respect to the knowledge that you already held. But if you feel the universe or earth holds that knowledge somewhere out in the aether and can tap into it with LSD, that'd be pretty cool.

 

I don't believe you are able to access any information that is not already inside of you during a psychedelic experience. You may have a moment of insight and realize a way it could have been built, but the land is not going to suddenly interface with your brain and give you an answer IMO.

 

I agree with the above two posts.
Let me add that what I notice with psychedelics and weed also, is that pretty much all the junk I have learned about a topic and related topics and topics related to those tertiary topics then go onto the next associated idea/concept in an explosive "all at once" non-linear presentation to my conscious mind.

It's pretty cool, a little overwhelming at times, and seems fantastic and as if I am being flooded with knowledge from "out there".
But in reality it is most likely the result of the way psychedelics effect information processing and retrieval and all the info is already present in your mind.

BUT, then again there is a aspect to psychedelics that does indeed "expand consciousness" beyond that which is seemingly possible given the content available within.

The idea of a "universal knowledge bank" is a very old idea.

But Hell, if we understood how everything worked, what fun would that be?

 

Curious GB, after you have had time to process and reflect, what is your position on DMT entities?
I know we got into a discussion about the subject when you were experimenting with it and I think you were undetermined concerning them at the time.
Any new thoughts?

 

This is true Mr. Writer, I always think since all matter is interchangable we would technically be the same molecules that existed millions of years ago just reformed into what we percieve to be new!! Recent physicist also are sayin that the universe seems to work like a giant brain!! Since all humans are in an instance the universe because we are all apart of it then we may be able to acces information from during the trip through ego death!! The reason I believe its difficult to obtain this information sober is because we as humans have created vast generlizations in which we render specific information "useless" towards our survival!

 

It is very difficult because at the end of the trip I can feel my mind almost winding its self back into an enclosed position, but the amount of information you can get back from the universe is AMAZING! Although the answers you get back are not neccesarily spoken in words, so some of the answers are almost impossible to understand! I remember I had asked the universe what happens after death and the answer it gave was...almost like something that was so clear inyet illegible... Haha maybea the pyramids interest me so much because I just switched to being an engineering major lol

 

I'm still on the fence... I feel with DMT that some, if not most of the experience with my stronger DMT trips feels more impersonal. There is a sense of perfected structure and neutral elegance to the DMT trip that I have difficultly understanding how it relates to myself in many ways among the cacophony of psychedelic stimuli and perceptions that I'm catapulted through. In regards to experiences with DMT entities, they'll seemingly attempt to interact with me in some incomprehensible manner and seem to always be enjoying whatever it is they are attempting to convey but rarely do I have any sort of resonance to it. In regards to the topic, I don't think DMT will impart knowledge on you on how the pyramids were built either. But after experiencing these perceived entities, It really makes me think of how we interact with pets like dogs or cats and what insignificant percentage of the stuff we try to convey to them that they actually comprehend. I attempt to not give in to hyperbole when describing the experience of DMT entities, however I also attempt to not try and suppress those perceptions.

With LSD, I find more of an ebb and flow where I can build off the stimuli of my surroundings and expand and elaborate on the beauty and elegance often contained within the incoming stimuli, which I in turn resonate with and makes me have a greater sense of understanding. For instance, reflecting back on my most recent trip, I feel powerful emotions welling up inside me as I reflect on how much I was filled with awe discovering a new park to explore and seeing the oncoming changes of spring blooming in much of the plantlife, finding humor with the ungraceful manueverings with the cows there. I can go far into my head with LSD too and the experience doesn't necessarily have to relate to the enviornment around me but I still tend to experience this sense of resonance with it.

The velocity, intensity and duration of DMT maybe often prevent sort of a similar type of resonance, in fact my experiences with DMT via Changa which I find more gradual and more emotional even reinforce that idea for me. I usually experience intense emotions on the comedown of DMT which usually manifests as an afterglow but I don't have the same ability to conceptualize, connect with and process the hallucinations and perceptions at that point.


Part of me feels DMT entities could be an archetype of collective/personal unconsciousness or simply significant abberations in mental processing that I never previously thought could manifest in such perfected, structured detail. But there is a part of my thoughts which admittedly tend toward more far fetched ideas and which revolve more around the concept of DMT trips (I don't believe it's the only psychedelic that can do this however ime experience it has felt the most direct) tapping into some sort of alien frequency where the experience of the DMT entities and space is as best I can compare to like an advanced holographic network. With this more outlandish concept, I don't necessarily believe what I experience as DMT entities on the trip is necessarily actually them manifesting, I would suggest it's more like them showing me their 'Bat Signal.' lol

So yah... I really haven't came up with a definitive stance in regards to DMT entities, I haven't even really thought about it recently until I started on this response. A few months ago I had a heavy DMT trip that was a psychedelic ass wooping, kind of didn't really focus on it for awhile thereafter and then I smoked it one more time like two months later at a lower, more manageable dose as sort of a DMT swan song for the time being.

 

Interesting concept - I would like to try it out

I plan a trip here in Basel, when I'll wander around all the art museums - I'll try asking them how they were made and let you know :sunny:

Time is extremely malleable in a trip - so I wouldn't be surprised if you could bring out more than one might expect

 

similar experience observing a daisy bouquet breathe, as if I had a enhanced empathy with them.

 

I thought it was a generally accepted notion that psychedelics expand your perception of things that are always present, so under this assumption wouldn't you become aware of latent information not accessible before you ingested psychedelics?

Not that i think you're wrong, just wondering if you think everything that happens in a trip is from your subconscious or if you take in information from the subtle energies in the world or wuteva..

 

i think that being on lsd could provide an altered state that might allow you gain understanding in unique ways, have 'revelations,' or spiritual experiences. but i disagree with pyramids and brains.

 

If we are all one, everything is accessible to the higher you and your higher self is accessible to you on LSD/shrooms :sunny:

I doubt you can come back with too much though - maybe an idea - but not a schematic or anything.

You have to discover it or figure it out for yourself, I think that's the point of this existence. Developing on your own and with others, finding love, learning to accept this life and make the most from it.

 

Well there is video documentation of somebody finding a missing cow with the use of mushrooms.

The Shamans I feel can connect with the grid of the land, and witness certain events within their minds eye.

I have defiantly seen events unfold in full on moving 3d images. There are realms of lsd that no one can remember. They're are places we've all been that when we get back to the hipforums that knowledge is totally gone. The only way we know of slight hints from the back our minds.

Most people on here think the lsd happens all inside your mind. But I think some of it happens outside of you, that it connects you to some larger grid, some larger server of thought, that it comes through the ether and out of you.

So maybe someone who is more spiritually advanced, and who has learned the way of the psychedelic could actually see a past event such as the building of the pyramids.

 

Impossible. Yeah, I said it. Take it from a history nut (only did shroom trips though).

 

We're always connected - the ego is the set of barriers that disconnects us from it to fit into this world.

Other cultures build their egos in different ways and are more connected - not many have an understanding of it.

We're all connected, always - you just need to learn to recognise it and understand it. We connect to it every night through our dreams.

 

We are not connected to egyptians that lived 3000 years ago in a sense that we can get answers from them or the place were they lived about how the pyramids were build. It would be fun if it was otherwise but it isn't.

 

Time is irrelevant in the spirit plane... but why would you ask such a question when you already know the answer? When you're in that space with no ego, the thought doesn't enter your head to remember as it's like an instantly accessible knowledge bank :sunny:

You can experience what it was like to help in building the pyramids though, I'm sure

 

What it was LIKE perhaps yes. You can not experience what it was exactly. Maybe it seems like that but it isn't the case. And we don't know the answer about how they exactly were built. We have valid assumptions, sure. I don't know if you mean that with 'when you already know the answer'? Time may be irrelevant but those people and their time are gone and they nor the exact location they lived on can not give you answers in the form of completely new information because you are on the spirit plane.

 

If I could solve the mysteries of the past just by ingesting acid and having the universe deliver the appropriate knowledge, I'd capitalize on it and become a rich man.

Maybe even set up my own company or pyramid scheme. :toilet: