I wasn't sure whether to post this in the synthetic chemicals section, or the DMT section... so I just put it here. Mods, feel free to place it wherever appropriate if needed. * Just the basics: Substances: 4-ho-MiPT, 4-ho-DiPT, DPT & DMT Mindset: adventurous, happy, free Gender: F Weight: 95lbs Background: Experienced with many different psychedelics, LOVE tryptamines particularly, general low tolerance to psychedelics (dose-sensitive). The experience: On this special occasion, my friend and I decided to have a sort of "tryptamine tea party". We planned to ingest the following substances over a period of about 5-6 hours: 4-ho-MiPT, 4-ho-DiPT, DPT and DMT. The 4-ho-MiPT and 4-ho-DiPT were pretty wonderful together (10mg of each)- actually very complementary and deep. I remember talking to my friend G (who was taking all of the same substances I was, but in slightly higher doses as he has a higher tolerance) during the more lucid waves of the trip, and then being more 'floored' when the more intense waves hit, which we were quiet during. This was when we had just done these two substances together, before adding the DPT. I felt very tranced out and those electric, pleasant tryptamine surges were running through my body from the MiPT counterpart and the shamanic trancelike effects of the DiPT counterpart. After having the first dose of DPT (~20mg insufflated) about 2 hours after dropping the first two substances, things got very SHARP, excruciatingly intense and crisply visual. The trippiness of everything, both visually and psychologically, felt very fresh and sharp and almost threatening in a way, but I still somehow enjoyed being overtaken completely. After the DPT leveled off the first time, we decided to have another dose. When the second dose started to kick in, I remember feeling *so* overwhelmed this time that I began to feel almost uncomfortable. As much as I wish I could report on the details of what I experienced, it is still quite difficult. At the time, I really had no idea what to make of what I was experiencing (I don't think 'I' was even there to really comprehend it much), and it was all so abstract that I don't remember a whole lot of it really. I felt the past stages of the room I was in, and it felt like it was wise beyond the time we were spending in it. It was as if the energies of all the people who had inhabited the room in the past (mostly elderly people) were swirling together and invading my mind state. I experienced a lot of "phantom memories" which I was not sure of where they had come, as they were certainly not of my own life. I was remembering various houses, climates, era feelings, anticipation for going on some sort of car rideā¦ I don't even know! Just random memories that seemed to belong to someone else, most of which were actually kind of mundane. I remember looking around the room and everything looked threatening for some reason. The visuals were so crisp and sharp that entire room seemed to be splitting into fragments. I remember feeling like I was a vessel in which God or some form of Divinity was using in order to conduct and manifest electrical energy through. Though this feeling kind of excited me sexually, it was also almost painful due to the sheer overwhelmingness of sensation and mental overload. One thing that bothered me was that I had a strong pressure in my head. This feeling worried me slightly. I tried to just trance out in order to not dwell on this worrying over my physical state. I also still wanted to have the DMT, but I wasn't thinking about it at this time, needless to say - I doubt this was the right time anyway because I know I wouldn't have been able to function enough to get the DMT pipe ready. I do remember lapsing in and out of reality a couple of times and coming back to that strange sharp reality based on electricity, but I don't remember the process of slipping away completely. The trip must've gotten so intense that I just blacked out as my mind was completely unable to process what I was experiencing. I just remember waking up gradually at some time later, completely unaware of how much time had actually passed. I just remember finding myself awake at some point, and my other friend had come into the room (will call him L) and he was in front of me asking me questions about my roommate back at home, who was messaging him asking him what I was up to (I hadn't told her about my partaking in this trip). L wanted to ask me what it was that he should tell my roommate. I do remember eventually becoming aware that L was there, but I don't remember my thought process in how I realized that he was there or how the English language ended up making sense to me the more he spoke. When I finally became aware that I was awake, alive and had taken DPT and the other psychedelics, I still had no clue what had just happened during the blackout, where I had "been", where I was at the current moment or how to make sense of any of the words L was saying. When I realized that he was trying to speak to me, I had to ask him to repeat what he was saying maybe five times before I finally understood what he was asking. I attempted to answer him, but i kept forgetting what I was doing. I eventually was able to answer him after about 10 minutes of attempting to make sense of what was going on. I began to become more lucid now. My friend G told me that he had been telling L that it was a bad idea to wake me up when I was in such a trance state, but I said it was okay. Then I told L, "Thanks for waking me up. I was going to have some DMT, but then I lost contact with reality." L found this to be rather funny since moments before, I hadn't even been able to answer him. Now functional enough to undertake the task, I got the DMT ready and had about 4 or 5 hits. The experience I had was not very colorful, but it seemed like I was experiencing a complete other dimension. The room took on a different meaning and it seemed like an old lady was its inhabitant. I remember seeing (or perceiving in some way) balls of yarn, old lady-ish clothing, quilts, purses and other clothes or decorations that an old lady might have in her room. (None of these objects were distortions of real objects or actually existed in reality in any sense.) The whole room "felt" ancient and elderly as well. I enjoyed the dimension-warp. When I came back, I blasted off my friend G (quite relentlessly at that), and he seemed to really enjoy his experience. I started drifting off to sleep some time after this, as the DMT afterglow feeling really calmed down my body lots after I came down. I also took some xanax to help me to fall asleep. To this day, my friend and I both talk about the "blackout" we experienced, as this was atypical for both of us. We both experienced the exact same thing after the second dose of DPT, and after we came down from it, we felt like we had been spending time together somewhere in another space/time. We can't remember anything else other than the way we felt when we came back.
Yes, it seems that DPT really is great to add on when already tripping... especially if you want to up the ego loss factor, apparently.
I wish I had your dose sensitivity to these chems... The "phantom memory" phenomena sounds interesting and the aged wisdom of the room. It seems that a similar type of loop of the 'wise old age' theme reoccurred with the DMT. A 4-ho-dipt and DPT combo seems like it'd be pretty wicked, although I'd be extremely particular of when I dosed that, as both those chems have kicked my ass. In my experience, I have found too many chems in the mix tends toward blackouts or just an intoxicating blur, but it sounds like you had a powerful trip from what you recall, also doesn't sound like tolerance was much of a factor.
Thanks for reading <3 4-ho-dipt+dpt is very interesting! I've done just those 2 together as well and it was very very trancelike and visual. One thing I've noticed from both aco-dipt and ho-dipt is how clear-minded and trancelike they are. It seems like the ho-dipt is more visual though. Yay for propyllated tryptamines!!