i really cant tell if you are being sarcastic or not, but i think "tree hugging" means that you love nature and youll nonviolently protest against the destruction of nature, at all costs. and also, has anyone here ever danced with trees? i heard its great fun
Tree hugging means you respect nature in a sense that you are willing to hug a tree to prevent it from being cut down; I guess...
Yes the term came from goofu people that would stand in front of or chain themselves to a tree to keep others from cutting it down. I guess those people don't use furniture, or paper, or tools.....
yeah but it is actually really satisfying. i dunno why, try hugging a tree that you can't get your arms round, really! jaz
actually I am tree hugger, a green thumb, a volunteer gardener for the cemetery and winner of the horticulture award at my school. Im a huge tree hugger. hugging a tree in a storm is AMAZINg.. its safe and grounded, yet you could get killed at any second...lol trees are my thang I love how people one here love them too gotta love the nature
oh how your message/user name conveys the words of truth. REAL americans don't hug trees, they hug guns. REAL americans don't like nature they like profit. boy wouldnt it be great if all americans were REAL americans? ya know there are reasons to cut down certians trees for tools and paper, and furniture, and there are reasons that certian trees SHOULDNT be cut down. like old growth forest trees...you can't just lump them all together.... oh yea and what the hell are you talking about with this 'goofu people'...i yahooed and googled it and nothing came up so please provide us with a link
Furniture? That is an ok arguement, but many pieces of furniture are made with metallic frames and have padding added; no wood used there. Paper? Well, hemp can be used to make plenty of that. Tools? That is an ok arguement also, but light-weight metals could be substituted for the handels and what not. You come across as a person of excess; you require lots of material possessions. I guess you are a real American in some senses...
Did anyone else catch that? Safe yet you could die? Who said anything about guns? Who said I dont like nature. I own 1500+ acres of land west of San Antonio TX and I have yet to find a place more beautiful. Quit acting like you know me. Oh, and my name Real American shows that I was born in America and proud of it. I personaly can't stand titles of African American or any thing else, I'm just American. I'm sorry I am not perfect and made a typo. I am sorry you complain to me about my spelling yet you cant capitolize the first letter at the begining of a sentence. I am sorry you use the word ya instead of you. I am sorry you aren't familiar with a keybord to see thet the U and the Y are right next to each other. I am sorry. But there are still lots of pices of furniture made from wood. I know, cause my pc is sitting on a fine and beautiful cherry wood desk. Well, when I go into WalMart to buy school supplies for my son, I don't look for hemp paper. I just pick up a package. If it's recycled paper great, if not, it will be when my son is done with it. You come across as a judgmental person that assumes he knows someone. Material possesion are nothing to me because when I die I will take nothing with me. What is with you thinking you can read one line and assume you know me?
I know that; but those are a select few pieces of furniture. I was mentioning mainly chairs, couches, and beds; sorry for the lack of coherency. That's besides the point I was trying to make; hemp is illegal to grow and the only material that is used to make clothing and jewelry is imported into the states. I'm saying that if it were used to produce paper, trees would not be needed as a source for such material. Hence, people don't need trees to make paper, so that was what nullified your statement about said substance. If you don't wish to be judged, then say all you need to say to erase any reasonable doubt. When you said that people who hugged trees were unreasonable in the fact that they required them to live, it looked as though you were saying that they ABSOLUTELY have to have that material. Thus, I got the idea that you considered them key to certain aspects of life; the furniture comment hinted at materialism. The reason I think I can assume I know you from reading one line is because I consider the subject from several points of view before responding; I hesitated at first because I did not know how to respond to certain aspects of your post because I needed to think of what you were trying to say in the few laconnic statements you chose. I did not check my response to your furniture comment from the view of desks, entertainment centers, etc. which is why I appologized for it earlier in this post. Please try to understand that I work as well as I can with what you give me which is why I am forced to assume sometimes; if you don't like it, explain your views thouroughly.
Huh? I never said that. Perhaps you are reading someone elses post from some other forums and mixing it up with mine. Lets see, my house frame is made of wood, I have wood floors, a lot of wood in my house. What about those poor plants needed to make all that paper and cloths? All I did was explain where the term "tree hugger" came from and added something interesting.
Hold on, lemme check... Your stating that people NEED wood to have furniture, paper, and tools. The furniture one is fairly solid, but your other two are flawed. I know that; but I stated that wood was not necessarily needed for most forms of furniture, not at all for paper, and could be substituted for tools; less trees used in that case. Hemp plants can be grown and processed much faster than cutting down and replanting a forest. It takes approximately 4 months to grow a hemp plant while it takes a decade or two to grow a full tree. If you do the math, you can produce hemp products 30x faster than a tree product. I realize that, but the 'something interesting' part was what I was responding to.
I think you've both gone a bit off track here; even tree huggers use wood. They use wood from sustainable, well managed forests. Wood is not like fossil fuels; it can be replaced. What I think most protests are about are when beatiful ancient trees and areas of beauty are destroyed for new housing developments. Deforestation is one of the world's problems that can be dealt with, even if this process is slow. I think tree huggers usually protest so that they can enjoy using cherry-wood desks as much as yourself, Real American; they just know there's more ways than one to take this beautiful gift nature has given us.
Ya, that's true, I was just responding to his comments on unecessesary use of tree products. Furniture, that's plausable, but paper and tools are more wasteful; they can have other things substitute for them. But yes, I see the point in preserving a beautiful forest.
Interesting point, I didn't think about it that way. However, I would like to point out one more thing. How many plants would it take to equal that of one tree? Perhaps a better idea would be to trade off from producing paper from trees one year, to plants the next? Make it a seasonal thing? I don't know, would need more thinking behind it. I would like to point out that the term "tree hugger" was used on those extreme activists that felt no trees should be cut down ever. I would also like to point out that companies and people have been cutting down trees and replacing them for years. Imagine starting at one end of a huge forest and working a section of that forest. Once done with that section a group comes in bhind them and replants young trees. By the time you get to the end of that forest, the trees you planted behind you have grown. Therfore starting it all over again. When people complain about the rain forest being cut down and destroyed, they are only looking at pictures of a recently cut area. They don't realize that the rain forests are as big as some countries. The planet is in no danger of loosing the rain forests. Here, I'll add a conversation I had with a young "tree huger" friend of mine: sugarmagno911: good afternoon mel MelgoreTheMage: hello hello sugarmagno911: how are you MelgoreTheMage: im good, talking on hipforums about tree huggers sugarmagno911: lol sugarmagno911: what about them..*glares* lol MelgoreTheMage: someone asked where the term came from sugarmagno911: ah sugarmagno911: i hug trees..lol MelgoreTheMage: goofy sugarmagno911: hehe MelgoreTheMage: this is something i just posted MelgoreTheMage: I would like to point out that the term "tree hugger" was used on those extreme activists that felt no trees should be cut down ever. I would also like to point out that companies and people have been cutting down trees and replacing them for years. Imagine starting at one end of a huge forest and working a section of that forest. Once done with that section a group comes in bhind them and replants young trees. By the time you get to the end of that forest, the trees you planted behind you have grown. Therfore starting it all over again. When people complain about the rain forest being cut down and destroyed, they are only looking at pictures of a recently cut area. They don't realize that the rain forests are as big as some countries. The planet is in no danger of loosing the rain forests. sugarmagno911: i disagree..the animals are being indangered because of cutting down the rain forest.they get caught up in the process and loose there lives and there habitat.. MelgoreTheMage: it gets rebuilt MelgoreTheMage: besides, we need wood sugarmagno911: yes we do but the animals need there lives MelgoreTheMage: ill give you that MelgoreTheMage: however, God created the animals and gave them the brains to adapt MelgoreTheMage: they simply make a new home sugarmagno911: yes but there bodys cant adapt as fast as we cut down there home.. MelgoreTheMage: I would prefer us as humans to use the resources God gave us, rather than say for instance, living outside MelgoreTheMage: thats not true hun, we are the ones slow at adapting sugarmagno911: we can live almost everywhere sugarmagno911: and we do MelgoreTheMage: yes, but can you live outside in alaska without the house that you live in? sugarmagno911: no dont think i could. sugarmagno911: but i dont have to live in alaska MelgoreTheMage: no you dont sugarmagno911: i could live outside in jeresy MelgoreTheMage: you could live outside anywhere you wanted, at times it would be extremly hot, like here in texas where it gets up in the 105 area MelgoreTheMage: or you could be rained on constantly and get sick MelgoreTheMage: or you could freeze to death in the snow MelgoreTheMage: i understand your feelings MelgoreTheMage: i truely do MelgoreTheMage: but if you look at it, its all in the circle of life MelgoreTheMage: its checks and balances in nature sugarmagno911: yes.but i think that animals and humans should have the same rights. MelgoreTheMage: without upsetting you i think that is the young inocent side of you, we would all love for the world to be perfect MelgoreTheMage: i dont view animals as equal to me. Do i love my dog? yes with all my heart. Will I miss her when she passes away, yes deeply. However, my dog is a domesticated animal. Out in the wildlife, if you have the same rights as animals, that puts you in the feeding chain. A lion wouldnt look at you and think "hey she is my equal" it would think, hey, that thing could feed myself and my cubs
I hugged a tree....then I cut it down. Then I hugged another tree....and cut it down. I did this many times. I then milled the trees into rough-cut lumber and built a house. I cut down more trees and bucked them and split them. Then I heated my house. Thanks trees.